Ukraine: Russia asks, what if Sevastopol was Okinawa?

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WASHINGTON, March 7, 2014 — Over the last few weeks, Americans who previously could not find Crimea on a map received a crash course on Ukraine.

Protests sparked by a government decision to scrap a deal with the European Union in favor of closer ties to Russia built over three months, ultimately deposing the corrupt government of Viktor Yanukovych.

The opposition established a “government of unity” in Ukraine, naming lawyer, economist and politician Arseniy Yatsenyuk as Prime Minister to rule until elections set for May 2014.

Yanukovych fled to Crimea, an autonomous region in southeastern Ukraine which has a largely ethnic Russian population and sympathies to Moscow.


The crisis intensified earlier this week when Russia, at the request of the self-appointed Prime Minister of Crimea, sent troops into the Crimea. Russia said it made the move to as a humanitarian effort to protect ethnic Russians in the region.

Yesterday, the Crimean parliament voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia. It announced it will hold a referendum on the issue on March 16 to allow citizens to decide whether to remain an autonomous region or whether to become part of Russia.

The United States, the EU, Canada and others have widely condemned Russia’s actions and blame Moscow for inciting Crimea to secede. President Barack Obama strongly criticized Crimea’s decision to hold a vote, saying it violates not only the constitution of Ukraine, but also international law.

Although the EU is holding emergency talks aimed at ending the crisis in Ukraine, the EU and the US have announced they will implement three step sanctions against Russia, depending on its reaction to the crisis.

To most Russians, the US response to its actions in Ukraine are perplexing.

President Vladimir Putin, they say, is not only protecting ethnic Russians, but also ensuring the security of military assets at the port of Sevastopol.

They also note that the opposition illegally ousted a democratically elected official in a coup, which the international community should not recognize as legitimate.

As one former KGB officer who is now a businessman in Moscow asked, “What if Sevastopol was Okinawa?”

The scenario, he explained, would look like the following:

What if North Korean activists in Tokyo violently removed the Japanese government by force and installed themselves as the government?

Residents of the island of Okinawa, who have a long-term relationship with the US through the US base there, contact Washington and ask for protection.

The new government in Tokyo outlaws all languages except Korean.  The residents of Okinawa become more concerned and beg the US for help.

Meanwhile, the US bases in Okinawa, which contain American citizens, military equipment, weapons and secrets are at risk.

The former Russian intelligence official asks, “Under these conditions, would the US still say intervention is wrong?

He shrugs his shoulders and adds, “And would President Barack Obama care if Putin said it was?”

 

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  • William Haburne

    I feel he missed the first step of the equation…If North Korean activist took over Japan…laughable…but the United States is already in a Compact I believe to Protect JAPAN…SO it would have never made it to the Okinawan question. North Korean activist would have been stopped in JAPAN PROPER!!!!

    • audieho

      Another thing he missed is whether the Japanese government was mistreating its citizens or not. If they were, the US would have said something prior to the violent overthrow; not wait until it occurs then use it as an excuse to take land.

  • What if the colonists hadn’t illegally declared independence and taken over a British territory, overthrowing loyalist governors who aided tyranny? NO people have a right to tolerate any government – originally in place through democratic means or not – that usurp their God given rights.

  • Secretsquid

    I understand Obama has ” unfriended” Putin on Facebook.

    • Wags

      that seems drastic…perhaps he just said he MAY unfriend him.

      • Secretsquid

        “Weakness is a provocation” Obama is provoking Russia and North Korea.

  • Luis C Aviles

    The referendum will be the voluntary desicion of the citizens in Crimea, and is legitimate when the majority take action, is an election so where is the international violation? A group of people take the government by force and brutality and that is legal for the internarional world? When Ukraine has a legal president without finish his mandate? So I will give my example… If we majority desagreed with president Obama in United States and one million of people will march to the white house and force president Obama to resign that legal? No!!! Either if Obama is a weak president we need to talk with the government and force government to resign or do reforms. But we can not remove him from power because he won a legitimate election. When nations tolerate issues like this is toleraring violance and revolution. In pacific and democratic ways the reforms the president leader will be nominated in elections by votes.

    • maddog23

      ?? pls spk english

      • Sherill Weber

        I think he’s saying:
        If the vote by the citizens is legitimate by majority then it isn’t an international violation.
        A group of people taking the government by force and brutality is not legal.
        The Ukraine had a president and was violently removed from office without finishing his term (mandate).
        The rest is an example he used about Obama being weak and we need to talk to our government to resign (impeach) him and/or do reforms because we cannot remove Obama with power (violence & revolution). 🙂

  • MiaNous

    Since Crimea is mainly Russian, I feel they have the right to sucecede just as states have the right here in the USA, is there any difference ? NO ! The USA needs to support the UKRAINE which I believe Russia will leave alone. It would be akin to the Native Hawaiians wanting to sever ties with the USA and go back to the Ancestral Indonesians from which they came.
    But thats just me.

    • maddog23

      secede

  • Sherill Weber

    If Crimea votes to go with Russia on the 16th and Russia promises to move back out and leave Ukraine alone,,,let them go. We’re going to put up sanctions, Russia is going to retaliate over them, China is in complete support of Russia on this and that is bad news for the US. We may be powerless to do anything about the situation about the Ukraine but it also means that Russia and China are starting to understand how much economic leverage that they really have. Obama can threaten to put sanctions on Russia or threaten to kick Russia out of the G8 and those actions would not hurt the US too much. But on the other hand, Russia and China hold approximately 25 percent of all foreign-owned US debt and if they started massively dumping US debt it could rapidly create an economically nightmare for the US which would be worse than 2008. And that is a fact. Putin has already come back, after Obama’s threatening him with sanctions, saying Obama will not like what will happen next. I do not believe he is talking war.

    In addition, it is important to remember that Russia is the largest exporter of natural gas and the second largest exporter of oil in the world. And China now imports more oil than anyone else on the planet does, including the United States. If Russia and China got together and decided to kill the petrodollar, they could do it almost overnight. Do we want to start an economic war with Russia? If China and the rest of the world abandoned Russia over Ukraine, that would be one thing. But that is not happening at all. In fact, China has chosen to publicly stand with Russia on this issue.

    Obama is screaming loudly about what Russia has done, but the reality is that the U.S. has very little economic leverage at this point. What the U.S. does have is the strongest military on the entire planet, but you better pray that Obama does not decide to get the U.S. military involved in Ukraine. That would be absolutely disastrous. That would be the start of wwwIII.

    • maddog23

      And, economic leverage is tied directly to Strategic impotence. What we should really be looking at: where else will these adversaries exert their power? What exactly would happen if China begins annexing islands off the Philippine coast, or landing troop carriers in Taiwan?

      • Sherill Weber

        I see what you are saying. Thanks maddog23.

  • Rodney DeShong

    A terrorist president not following his own constitution , says you need to follow yours. Nobody in the world cares about what Oboofer the terrorist has to say. The majority of Americans in this country believe Obama is pushing us into the same problems. President Obama doesn’t care what the people want.Hang the traitor.

  • Roxane Schalasky-Hermosillo

    The people have voted to secede & so they should. Why would Obama think that’s illegal? Were there no voter fraud? He also knows all about constitutional violations, doesn’t he?

  • Patriot

    Our Foreign Policy is non-existent. We have lost all credibility we once had even with Bush. Putin as well as the rest of the world views Obama as a Fraud, Coward and Inept. Putin will do what he wants and get away with it like Obama. Obamas Agenda doesn’t include foreign policy. Obama will continue to destroy the United States by ruining our economy, dividing the nation and prepare his private civilian army NSA for Marshall Law where he will implement his Executive Orders and carry out his final solution just like Hitler.

  • Micah Ford

    As I understand it, from many sources I’ve read. The Ukrainian Pres somehow(bribery/black-male etc..) got the parliament to pass laws to increase/expanded his power and control and/or removed laws that limited his power and control, thus making him a dictator(or close to one). So a large group of people decided that wasn’t rite and protested peaceably, and thus ensued a crack down on the protesters, which ultimately failed, at this point he quit and left the country to his ally Russia.

    That was a bad example, so off base. This was an internal struggle in the Ukraine where a small group of Cleptocrats got bold in their activities in abuse of government and when they got caught fled, to their counterparts in Russia, who are doing the same thing but haven’t been caught yet. Now the Russians are scared that if they let this stand then the Russian people will revolt as well.

    That pretty much sounds like what should happen when any government stops representing it’s citizens and becomes a tyranny. The basic rights of people to be represented by those elected to govern should be respected and when those who are elected to govern take advantage of their position is it not the responsibility of the citizens to remove the abuser and replace them with new representatives? If that’s a coup or impeachment or what ever. To me Impeachment would only happen if the citizens still have control and are still able to use the existing law to effect the change/correction but if that option is no longer available should they then just lay down and let themselves be taken advantage of?

    Did not our fore fathers not mention that, the tree of liberty must be replenished with the blood of patriots from time to time. This battle never ends, in between each peace there are battles, Freedom is not Free. I fear that our Tree may need to be replenished sooner then later if we don’t make some serious course adjustments fast.

    China stands by Russia because if Putin gets away with this then they can take Taiwan and any other territory they feel they have claim to because they’ll be confident that the US or anyone else is too scared to do a damned thing about it. The worst part about this is that they are likely correct. The buffoon in the White House is in waaaaay over his head.

  • Robert Zendejas

    It would be too bad for Okinawans.
    Obama ain’t gots time fer dat.
    Golf
    Fund raisers
    Travel
    You know important stuff.

    • STFUTWIT

      You forgot the biggest one…..Blaming Bush

  • disqus_rlmKVnaKGS

    With the economic and social disasters that are going on in America we have to go and mess with other countries again?! The Obama administration has used this situation as yet another weapon of mass distraction. He has failed completely as our leader and now wants something to distract the idiot masses with. Have you noticed every few months or so it’s another “thing” somewhere else? Ever since 2012. Furthermore he is probably jealous that Putin is loved by his people and can get things done unlike him! To compare Obama to Putin is like comparing Steve Urkel to James Bond!

  • AL349

    Does Odumbo even know what a constitution is?

  • Andy Li

    Hmm, except Okinawa is anti-Japan and pro-China.