The Government v Bundy: Establishing the Bureau of Constitutional Erosion

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WASHINGTON, April 11, 2014 — Cliven Bundy is a man besieged. His ranch, which has been in his family for almost a century and a half, has come under the righteous fire of the federal government.

Bundy is allegedly guilty of allowing his cattle to graze on federal land, and the audacity is breathtaking. Without so much as a by-your-leave from the federal government, Cliven and his family have let their cows wreak havoc among the protected habitat of the endangered desert tortoise.


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The habitat, which covers nearly two hundred thousand acres, was closed off to grazers and their climate change inducing bovines in 1998.


However, Cliven has refused to pay the fees and fines he owes to the government for letting his “environmentally dangerous” cattle graze on land his family has worked since before the turn of the last century.

How can we have a system of laws, and a powerful federal government, if people do not do what they are told?

In a spirit of misguided brotherhood and support, dozens of “miscreant” protesters have arrived at the ranch in Nevada in order to prove a point about the alleged misuse and overstep of government power. These “dangerous” protesters were met by the long arm of the federal government, as armed Bureau of Land Management officers with personal defense weapons and community outreach canine partners valiantly held off assault after assault at the hands of reckless law breakers.

As the number of the “traitorous” protesters increased, the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) agents employed a brilliant new ploy in order to maintain maximum control of the situation.


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They established a First Amendment Zone.

The mechanics of this wondrous manifestation of beautiful, bureaucratic, government control are simple and elegant in design. The BLM agents at the scene simply found an area near the entrance to Bundy’s ranch and cordoned off a space capable of accommodating a large crowd, and with the magic of federal government, they blessed the area and granted it special First Amendment powers after they held a séance calling on the spirit of FDR for protection, as is the law.

Of course in order for the protesters to be able to find it they made the barrier color bright orange.

Now, if protestors want to exercise their government provided privilege to free speech, they can do so in the confines of the small orange square outside of Mr. Cliven Bundy’s ranch in Nevada. It would seem, however, that if one were to practice First Amendment privileges outside of the confines and protection of that bright orange box, they would be in violation of the favor and pleasure of the Bureau of Land Management, and thus the displeasure of their masters in Washington.

This is not the first development in the battle against reclaiming the government’s right to subdue the people of this “free” nation. Due to the tireless efforts of agents and policy makers in Washington, DC one hundred miles inward of all US borders are inherently free of the burdens of the Constitution.

These “Constitution Free Zones” have made it much easier for the government to do what it does best, force the people to get in line without any possible recourse.

It does not, and will not stop there. There are so many other possibilities agencies and governments around the country can put into place to help continue the plight of the government’s gradual reclamation of lost power.

Let’s look at the possibilities.

First and foremost, it would behoove the United States federal government to establish some kind of agency tasked with increasing government control and limiting the rights of the people to exercise their constitutionally afforded privileges.

We shall call it the Bureau of Constitutional Erosion, or the BCE.


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Warrants are always a hassle. The police have to find probable cause, they have to take it before a judge, and the judge has to okay it. Without the legal warrant requirement the police can’t search your home without your permission which makes the job of law enforcement much more difficult.

The BCE should start enforcing #WarrantlessWednesdays, where every Wednesday the Fourth Amendment no longer applies. This way, one day a week, the police don’t have to go through all of that trouble trying to uphold the Constitution and all of that pesky adherence to the law that has the ACLU in such a tiff. They will just be able to, without cause, every #WarrantlessWednesday, break down doors and search houses.

This can be repeated with other privileges the plebeians enjoy because of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. Sunday can be Second Amendment Nullified Sundays, and No-Fourteenth Amendment Fridays.

The BCE can also help enhance the governments reach and authority by holding game shows for people filing lawsuits. Instead of citizens being able to bring their cases before the Supreme Court, they have to complete a series of obstacle courses and trigonometry questions of varying degree of difficulty, often at the same time. And if they are eventually triumphant, and only after they have defeated LeBron James at a one on one game of basketball, can the citizen obtain the ruling that they wish. This will of course allow Congress to pass laws that they know are not constitutionally sound, without fear that the average, or even somewhat talented citizen, would have the ability to solve advanced math whilst being dunked on by LeBron James.


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Following the harrowing tale of the English boys school that was lost at sea following a harrowing plane crash in Lord of the Flies, the Bureau of Constitutional Erosion, or BCE, should institute the a program called “the Liberty Conch.” In the story, the children restricted the right to speak based on who was in possession of the conch. So the Liberty Conch would be a communal device passed around from person to person that would grant them their Constitutional privileges only when they were holding it. Each town will organize communities, and each community will be given a Liberty Conch. That way, no more than one person per community is practicing their Constitutional privileges at one time.

If the BCE wants to take their power to the extreme, they can attempt to do away with that childish celebration of our nation’s birth, and replace it with “Your Rights Don’t Matter Day” essentially rendering the Constitution invalid for 24 hours. Instead of veterans marching and music playing, and fireworks and good times, troops march into your neighborhoods and install martial law. Be in bed by 7pm little Timmy, you don’t want your first memories erased because you got tasered playing stickball with your pals!

If anything has been taught to us by the capable agents of the Bureau of Land Management in the Nevada standoff with that trespassing rancher, it’s that with the right amount of muscle and intimidation, the Constitutional rights of every American to speak freely can be reduced to a small orange rectangle in the desert.

What will they think of next?

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  • GPM

    United States of America v Bundy Document 35

  • Zebulon Yegaboski

    God Bless the Constitution of the United States of America!

    • ryan68bug

      Does the Constitution say anything about illegally grazing without permits?

      • OnePissedCitizen

        No but it does say a thing or two about how laws are supposed to come to be. Not just by establishing new bureaus that hand out edicts.

        • BLM is a subdivision of USDA?

          The militarization of agriculture for Monsanto?

          • dc2mb

            Parent Agency: Department of the Interior

          • You people all believe the same thing…

            You all believe your weenies come from heaven and that this gives you some sanctified right to be divine pricks passing your collection plate at gunpoint for the gods of communism (yourselves).

            The same thing is happening in Ukraine, but the Russians have real soldiers on their border and no gay pride marches in their army…

          • Aaron Mason

            Bye 🙂

          • Bir av tufegi emmek git, ibne yahudi…

        • J

          Actually the constitution -does- explicitly grant congress something called Plenary Authority which is the ability to invest authority into a governing body or individual to act on Congress’s behalf within a limited subject matter so long as that limited subject matter was originally under Congress’s power. Which means they -can- set up bodies like the TVA, the IRS, OSHA, the EPA, the USCCR and, yes, the BLM.

          • Andrew

            And the Constitution provides Bundy continued access to that land based on Eminent Domain…They’ve been using that land for 150 years, unabated and unchallenged…by rights, they can claim that land as their own!!

          • Aaron Mason

            Back to the Native Americans it goes then right? They used that land unabated and unchallenged for thousands of years. By rights the land belongs to us Native Americans.

          • Andrew

            You could say that, but I believe the Government has given them provisions for throwing them off their land. They live tax free wherever they choose, can live off the land without government interference, and can build their homes without government oversight and raise and educate their children without government nannyism..what’s your point?

          • Aaron Mason

            Move to a reservation.

          • Mike H1776

            Ahh Isn’t that what Americans are suppose to have? It’s called Freedom

          • I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting. It has been a long time since then, but still I have no love for the Mexicans. With me they were always treacherous and malicious.

            Geronimo, My Life: The Autobiography of Geronimo, 1905.

          • I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting. It has been a long time since then, but still I have no love for the Mexicans. With me they were always treacherous and malicious.

            Geronimo, My Life: The Autobiography of Geronimo, 1905.

          • robertbwinn

            Not according to the BLM. The BLM confiscated 132 head of cattle from former Shoshone chief Raymond Yowell on the Shoshone reservation. Raymond is suing for 10 million dollars in damages.

          • danboone143

            Yes, back to the Native Americans or Mexico if we are to believe the bizarre logic used by the Bundy supporters

          • Eminent domain does not apply. The Bundys paid the BLM to lease the land until 1993 when it was judged to be overgrazed and the Bundys were told to reduce the grazing levels. They refused to comply with the terms of their lease and were notified that the lease was cancelled. They continued to graze the land without paying fees and continued to get notices. Eventually this led to lawsuits all of which the Bundys lost. And now after they have not complied, have not paid and are disobeying the ruling of a federal judge, they are claiming to be victims…

          • Andrew

            the fees were unlawful to begin with. Essentially, they were tricked into paying them, as it didn’t go to managing the land whatsoever, but filling their coffers so that they can turn around and buy them out with their own money. How do you PAY to keep foliage going? What do paying fees do other than line other people’s pockets. They were NOT being condemned for overgrazing, they were being condemned for NOT accepting their offer to sell for pennies on the dollar, their land.

            In case you haven’t heard, the battle is over, and your side lost!!

            I would argue once again, if the Bundy’s were in fact doing something ILLEGAL, they would have arrested him and tried him in front of a jury of his peers. The fact that they were reduced to military tactics against his body and home and family, tells me they couldn’t because he was NOT doing anything ILLEGAL!!

          • dc2mb

            That’s it in a nutshell. The BLM stopped managing the land and their stated purpose is to do that and to use the funds to improve the land in cooperation with ranchers. Interestingly, their stated purpose disappeared from their website today.

          • danboone143

            LOL! Yes, interesting how the facts to prove your absurd point conveniently disappeared….

          • Sheri

            uh . . . no. And that’s NOT what eminent domain means, dude

          • danboone143

            Wrong again. Eminent Domain: the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation.
            I use the public park in my town, do I get to claim it as my own; can I put my free range chickens out there?

            Wow, it’s not that you people are wrong, it’s that you support violent opposition to those who are right.

        • jstein7444

          Well, we do have elections….and unfortunately, elections have consequences…seems to me in todays environment we have a bunch of people who just want to get to Congress to better their bottomline…they talk and walk like you until they get into government and all of a sudden they represent just a handful of people in this country…I would like to know if this Rancher contacted his Senator or Representative and what they did for him…or what their advice was….

          • Die jüdischen Bankiers sind überschwemmen Europa mit Muslimen…

        • Sheri

          Established by Congress. As provided for by the Constitution, in particular Article IV

      • nyran125tk

        without permits? fck off, seriously. Did you not read his daughters letter? He said no to the BLM when they STOPPED helping the farmers and started land grabbing and treating people like sht.

        and to be honest, the proof is right there , you can stare at it, they have sniper rifles, helicopters, military, aiming their gun sat the family. Theyve already beaten and molested the guys kids. which is quite frankly bullsht. If you believe the turtle story, i feel sorry for you.

        • Western Ecos

          SO they cut off his welfare, and took a million dollars worth of cows to cover his tab. Ok, I guess maybe the enviros do have a point.

          • GMObama?

          • Andrew

            Cut off his welfare??..Are you stupid or something??..Bundy was PAYING THEM to protect HIS LAND…They took that money to FORCE off all the other Ranchers…Do you have a clue what that means for you and everyone else??..PRICE INCREASES in all your food…you dimwit!! Becuase he wasn’t feeding his cows MONSANTO JUNK, He’s getting punished…The idiots never cease to amaze me!!

          • Aaron Mason

            OUR land, not HIS land.

          • JusticeDied

            The surface rights to graze and water belong to this family and have since 1877 under the doctrine of beneficial use. He has property rights regarding the land that are not ours. The BLM didn’t exist then, but was created purportedly to manage the land and the grazing fees were supposed to pay them for that management. The BLM has done squat for that money. It was the ranchers sharing grazing and watering rights who improved the land and built cisterns that water his cows and “our” wildlife.

            Would you continue to pay a manager that seeks to violate your property rights? Would you pay for your own demise?

          • Aaron Mason

            It is federal land, we all own it.

          • JusticeDied

            “We” don’t own the grazing and watering rights. The Bundy’s and neighboring ranchers own them under the doctrine of beneficial use. “We” have the right to hunt, hike and ride horses on it, but do you think the BLM would allow us to do so?

          • Aaron Mason

            Proper channels. And in designated areas, yes, you can use it. We Americans who are currently here aren’t the future generations. 300 years from now the Americans who live here will be thankful that we had the presence of mind to restrict access to some areas.

          • jstein7444

            I think it is funny how the Republicans shutdown the government in 2013 which resulted in the closing of our National Parks – no one could use them….hmmmm, I am assuming that maybe one or more of those people in the congress is someone you voted for…..

          • Andrew

            Wow…someone is truly out to lunch on this one!!..I’m not even going to dignify that with a response…:/

          • Die jüdischen Bankiers sind überschwemmen Europa mit Muslimen… liegen jude…

          • robertbwinn

            Why can’t you go into a closed national park? I think a Mexican could get into a closed national park.

          • Sheri

            No, grazing rights are not vested rights, as the courts have ruled in many, many cases over grazing permits.

          • Andrew

            HE IS OUR!!…If HE is not included in OUR then neither are YOU!! That land is for YOUR benefit, not just HIS..if you can’t see that, then just get out of the way because YOU’RE part of the problem!!

          • Aaron Mason

            Blah blah blah. I want to grow hemp forests there and his cattle preclude that from happening. I benefit from his cattle NOT being there.

          • robertbwinn

            Well, I don’t live in Nevada, so I do not claim it.

          • jstein7444

            Well, that is what his daughter said….why not get a lawyer and file suit…that would stop the action going on…plus, all these crazies showing up ready to show how tough they are with their guns…..calmer minds prevail…..

          • Andrew

            Well, I’d prefer to get my info from the horse’s mouth, but you’re certainly free to accept the version of the compromised corporate owned MSM, and that it’s REALLY about the turtles…Again, endangered turtles that are ironically too numerous for the BLM to manage.

          • Die jüdischen Bankiers sind überschwemmen Europa mit Muslimen…

          • robertbwinn

            That would not stop anything. What they did was a lot better. They waited until the BLM agents started killing cattle instead of confiscating them, and then asked What are the backhoes for?
            Then the BLM agents got in their cars and left. So do you think they will be back to enforce the court order?
            I don’t.

          • Sheri

            It. Was. Not. His. Land.

          • Andrew

            What. Was. His. Crime.??

            If he is guilty, arrest him and try him in front of a judge and jury.

          • robertbwinn

            It is not your land?
            Nevada is open range. If the BLM does not want Bundy’s cows there, they have to fence them off, the same as anyone else in Nevada.

        • jstein7444

          I think there is more to it….why doesn’t he file suit, take legal action….take it through the Courts – by filing suit some of the actions taking place would be stopped until the problem is resolved in the Courts…this rancher stated the fine is $1 million and he has the money – well, if he has the money let him use it to resolve the problem legally….taking the laws into your own hands doesn’t resolve anything….

          • He has been filing suits and losing for two decades.

          • Andrew

            Only because the judges were being paid off. It was corrupt from the getgo!! Again, if he was doing something ILLEGAL, he would have been arrested and tried in front of a jury of his peers, to which it would have been determined if he was guilty of disobeying the LAW or NOT!! Bureaucracies were over reaching and they LOST!!

          • robertbwinn

            Cliven already said why. There is no point in suing in a court controlled by your enemies.
            Grazing fees are a civil matter. Why all the sniper rifles, free speech zones, and taser guns?

        • Sheri

          That just means that over time, the ranchers have lost their former total control over how the Dept of the Interior manages public lands. For instance, district grazing boards in Nevada now include members who are *not* ranchers.

          • robertbwinn

            Well, ranchers like Cliven Bundy have an advantage of ownership of the cattle. When the Democratic Party shut down the lumber industry in the United States, there was nothing loggers and lumbermen could do because they did not own the trees until they bought them from the Forest Service. There are 175 sawmills left in the United States. There used to be about 20 in the single county in Montana where I grew up. Now there are none.

      • dixiesuzan

        ryan68bug – The Constitution does say the following:
        Amendment 6 – Ratified 12/15/1791 – In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense. —
        And so you know that the armed BLM employees have suspended the 6th Amendment too, along with the 1st Amendment.
        If this is an illegal grazing without permit, and this is a Bundy criminal act, when and where has Bundy had his swift and speedy trial ? And such trial “: … by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed”??? And what was the jury verdict? I haven’t heard of one. And at the start of his trial was he ” … informed of the nature and cause of the accusation’? And during the course of this Bundy trial was he “… confronted with the witnesses against him.”? Was it allowed to ” …. have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor’???? Who exactly was ” …. his Assistance of Counsel for his defense”???

        • Read up on the history of this. Bundy went to court and lost multiple times he is now in violation of a federal court order to remove his cattle and to not interfere if they are being removed for him.

          • dixiesuzan

            Bob Ferris – Thank ya’ll for your reply.
            Where can I get a copy(s) of the court judgements??? I really don’t know and would like to see them. Right now I only know this guy is loosing his property without a jury trial. Bear in mind, criminal acts requiry a jury trial unless the defendent waves his jury trial rights.

          • robertbwinn

            It is not a criminal matter unless the government serves an arrest warrant on Cliven Bundy or someone else in his family. Grazing fees are a civil matter. Amendment VII gives Cliven Bundy the right to trial by jury if his cows are worth more than twenty dollars. Amendment VI gives Cliven Bundy the right to trial by jury if an arrest warrant is served. That is why Cliven has this won. The Obama administration is not going to let this anywhere near a jury.

          • robertbwinn

            So why doesn’t the federal government take the cows?
            I can tell you why. They spent about three million dollars trying to confiscate about a million dollars worth of cattle. Now the cattle are protected against cattle theft by armed guards.
            Federal law requires the BLM to use state and local law enforcement in confiscating the cows. If the BLM had used the Sheriff to serve the court order and involved the Sheriff in confiscating the cattle, the cattle would be gone.
            Federal agents are not going to involve a county Sheriff in any federal matter because that is not something federal agents do in our modern police state.
            Cliven Bundy is going to hold fast to the County Sheriff, regardless of what the Sheriff thinks of him.

        • Sheri

          He has not yet been charged with a crime, so far this has been a civil matter. To be charged with a crime he would have to be indicted by a federal grand jury. The BLM will definitely go back into court. If he keeps his cows on his OWN 160 acres they can still put a lien on the cattle and recover money when cattle, bred cows, or calves are sold.

          • Andrew

            Yet, this justifies the use of military style force against his home, person and family??

            His cows are grazing, he’s not a terrorist!!

          • Andrew

            He’s being accused of a FEDERAL CRIME…Every accused person has the right to a fair and speedy trial!!

          • robertbwinn

            So far he has not been accused of a crime. Grazing fees are a civil matter. Do you want federal police breaking down your front door if you miss a payment on your car?

          • dixiesuzan

            Sheri – Thank ya’ll for your reply.
            A fellow posted in a reply to me a copy of a Federal court judgement.
            Yes, indictment 1st, then Court ordered warrant on probable cause for arrest. BUT if this has been going on for years, then it would seem the BLM is culpable to the same conduct. One doesn’t let a embezzler continue to embezzle for years and after a few decades suddenly claim, “Hey, here is a crime of embezzlement which we have known about for the last 2 decades and we’re here to report embezzlement !!!.” This is called self confessing accessorys to the same crime. It has a ring of BLM insanity to it, or willing culpablility with criminal intent if there is indeed a crime committed. No court whatsoever, by court order can convey legal lawful authority to the BLM a power to suspend the 1st Amendment in the course of executing the court order. The BLM claimed that power and commanded under color of law that the 1st Amendment was suspended in, around the Bundy ranch and within Clark County, Nevada. They then executed this decree upon Nevada citizens and other US citizens present and inforced it at gunpoint.
            Now THAT is a Federal felony independent of any cattle leins or claims by the BLM. Bundy raised a hue and a cry for the County Sheriff to arrest the BLM employees. The County sheriff never came, but local folks came to his assistence and were subjected to loss of 1st Amendment rights at gunpoint under BLM decree. A number of them were tazered into submission.

          • robertbwinn

            In order to confiscate the cows legally, the BLM is required by federal law to work through state and local law enforcement, which Sheriff Gillespie said himself the BLM refused to do.

          • dixiesuzan

            robertbwinn – Thank ya’ll for your reply.
            Your absolutely correct. First the delivery of the court order to Bundy is the duty of the County Sheriff. He never appeared, did not do it, never gave written authority to the BLM to do it, and went into hiding for days. The BLM appeared in force of 200 armed and commenced enforcing court ordered cattle impounding at gunpoint.
            Now Sheriff Gillespie has a tremendous amount of authority as a county sheriff which would have avoided all this.
            People (including county sheriffs ) should realize is that the county sheriff is an agent of the state. No Federal policing agency can operate in his county without his permission. That includes folks the FBI and the armed BLM. He is under the executive branch of state government, namely the governor. The sheriff is the chief executive officer of peace of the state within his county. His chief duty is to keep the peace within the county. He may apprehend, and commit to prison all persons who break the peace or attempt to. He is required, ex officio, to pursue and take all traitors, murderers, felons and rioters. A county sheriff must arrest if a felony is done in his presence. He keeps the county jail and is required to defend it against all attacks. Generally speaking, a sheriff has no authority outside his county. As chief executive officer of the state in his county, he can call out the organized militia of the state within his county if needs be. That is the National Guard. With an National Guard air arm within his jurisdiction he has military air power. With a artillery unit of the National Guard within his jurisdiction he has artillery fire power. With a National Guard armored ground unit within his jurisdiction he has military armor at his disposal. He can shoot to kill if resisted by force. The County Sheriff may also call out the Posse Comitatis, the unorganized militia of the State within his jurisdiction to conserve the peace. That is every able bodied man and woman aged 18 to 45 citizen and alien resident within his jurisdiction. He may command them to come armed. It is an obligation of citizenship to comply with the Sheriffs call. Thus, the
            County Sheriff has tremendous resource as chief conservator of the peace within his county.
            So where was Chief conservator of the Clark County peace, Sheriff Gillespie? He couldn;t be found. He went into hiding and abdicated civil government protection in Clark County.
            And where was the Governor of the State of Nevada? He knew what was happening and gave a public news conference condemning the BLM for “suspending” the 1st Amendment by decree in Clark County. And then the governor walked away and abandoned the citizens to their fate and abdicated Nevada civil government protection to them in spite of his oath of office made under penalty of perjury.

          • NevadaBob

            That isn’t what Sheriff Gillespie said. He worked closely with the BLM for almost a year planning the removal of the trespass cows, and just as the operation got started, he quit his involvement, leaving them stranded.

          • robertbwinn

            Cliven is using the cows to feed the militia gun nuts guarding them. Maybe he will have to get more gun nuts to keep up with the calves being born if he can’t sell them.

        • robertbwinn

          It was done by federal courts, including the Supreme Court.
          That is why Bundy has this won. The feds are not going to allow this in front of a jury.

  • Ann Robertson

    I wonder how the fracking will affect the endangered tortoise.

    • Jefry Tober

      Would it matter? Because you tacitly support gas as cheap to you as possible. What have you and Bundy done to stop Fracking or the Canadian Tar Sands? Nada.

      • Ann Robertson

        Well in fact, I have contributed heavily in US dollars to help expose the dangers of fracking to our water supply. I have made calls and written letters. I can’t speak for Bundy. There is a link I tried to post here about the fracking leases that exist for the land in question. I don’t think it showed up. What have you done?

        • jstein7444

          Ohio has just passed regulations for Fracking due to the fact Geologist’s are stating it is part and parcel to the earthquakes they have had. Considering fracking is totally unregulated, hopefully other States will take action.

        • Jefry Tober

          I commend your donation. Fracking and water is a terrible mix that will surely devastate the rural west aquifers. I have no doubt regarding the evils of USDA, USFS, BLM however, The issue was 1993 NOT recent mineral leases and is being used today as a smokescreen. As is: Bundy could pay up and graze in the area just not in riparian zones that cattle in the arid SW trash, Fracking can occur nearby as well without huge impact of the tortoise although the reality is Fracking and Tar Sands will significantly trash the environment. Bottom line Bundy the old coot could care less for the environment and fracking is irrelevant to him and most of the teabaggers. It is possible I have done more to attempt to stymy the destruction of the planet by human greed and ineptness, I have indeed fought or stood up to a federal agency (USFS) and have seen them bring in guns and masks. The US is an evil empire, the concern I have is the conservative christians will be just as evil.

          • Monsanto has just the solution?

            There is more to this picture… h t t p : / / w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = I D z b S 1 I s i f c

          • Ann Robertson

            Oh yes, Monsanto..Them, too, since they basically own the USDA and the FDA

          • BLM is a subdivision of Monsanto… errr… I mean USDA?

          • Ann Robertson

            I have a concern about your attitude, Jefry. You attacked me without knowing anything about me and mine. You make unfounded assumptions. You hurt this cause more than help it.

        • Yet they are tearing down dams and waterways…

      • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

        I bet you’re house sure was warm this winter Jefry Tober, being heated by natural gas or electricity made, in some way by petroleum. Yes, the batteries used to store the energy from wind, water, and solar power are all made with petroleum based products. Solar panels themselves require petroleum products to be made. I’m all for finding alternative energy sources, but to punish the petroleum industry is only shooting ourselves in the foot… and our economy until someone finds a truly renewable material that can replace our dependence on petroleum based products. Don’t forget the shoes on you’re feet, tires, 95% of medical equipment, and the list goes on. Inform you’re go green buddies at you’re next hookah gathering that they couldn’t light up with out petroleum. P.S. The land belongs to Bundy.

        • Jefry Tober

          Think it through. The diesel was for biofuels. Henry Ford wanted to run his fords on biofuel – hemp. We took a wrong turn in choosing oil and we all will pay dearly for that choice.

          Bundy has a small land grant that is his property, however the 500,000 acres grazing allotment is on federal land and never ever was his.

          • They want to give the land to genetically modified agricultural producers…

          • Ann Robertson

            maybe so, but it isn’t really suited for crop production.

          • what do cattle graze on?

            And, recombinant DNA is not limited to plants…

          • Ann Robertson

            I should have used the term “arable”.
            “Permanent crops that occupy the land for a number of years, and don’t need replanting after each annual harvest — like coffee, rubber, flowering shrubs, fruit, nut trees and vines — are not counted as existing on arable land, but as existing on permanent cropland.[5][6]

            Permanent pastures and meadows used for grazing, land mowed for hay or silage not included in a crop rotation scheme, and abandoned land resulting from shifting cultivationis also not counted as arable, along with lands with built-on and barren areas, forests and woodlands.[7][8]”

          • Recombinant DNA is not limited to plants… or traditional cropland grains and produce.

          • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

            You’re right about that Jefry Tober. Hemp is an amazing thing that can be used for applications, such as the one you have described, among many more. Honestly, I support the legalization of Marijuana myself. The sad fact is that our government, who is controlled by the super rich, was behind that one too, so that hemp would not replace lumber as a much quicker renewable source to make paper. I’m just tired of Big Brother making decisions that hold back America’s progress and stomp all over the ,so called “Rights” given to us by our Forefathers. Someone has to draw a line in the sand, so I am.

  • dave7777

    What is the BLM going to do with carcasses of the tortoises they are fixing to slaughter because of budget cuts?

    • OnePissedCitizen

      landfill

  • Aaron Mason

    I’m generally not on the side of law enforcement, but in this case I’ll make an exception. This guy thinks he’s special and has more right to the land than the rest of us. It’s federal land, we ALL own it.

    • Remembering the Bill of Rights

      Then go put your cattle on it and let them graze there. Go work the land for 100 plus years and cave to the excessive fines and fee imposed by OUR gov’t in order to be the dutiful and respectable citizen. Remember…WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE GOV’T. The ruling class in DC has forgotten this little fact. The federal gov’t owns NOTHING. WE are the gov’t., and the sooner people start to remember our rights and the limits of those we elect, the better. Always remember your comment when the almighty and abusive federal gov’t comes for your house, car, bank account, etc,, because it now belongs to them…for the betterment of America and the federal gov’t. , of course. You better hope they don’t find a rare insect on your land…or it is theirs now….and you will have no right to complain. Just be compliant and give them what they ask like the good little serf you sound like.

      • Aaron Mason

        Blah blah blahbitty blah. He has every right to run his cattle there as long as he pays the grazing fees. Those fees are used to conserve and improve federal land for EVERYONE’S use. You think park rangers work for free? Grow up.

        • Freedom

          Aaron, he has pre-emptive grazing rights from his family having owned that property from 1887. Grazing rights are like air rights, mineral rights and right-of-way-on your property. They don’t expire. They are passed down generation to generation.

          • Jefry Tober

            Yes all stolen from sovereign indigenous people. You never stand for their rights now do you?

          • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

            You have a good point Jefry Tober, although the Federal Government are the ones who stole it from the Indigenous People. I guess we should just let them continue to steel what ever they want, when they want.

          • Jefry Tober

            WRONG. No it was US citizens just as much (if not more) as governments responsible for the genocide of over 170 million souls in the America’s. The Mormons’ coming into Utah is not a pretty picture as far as indigenous sovereignty goes.

          • “I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting. It has been a long time since then, but still I have no love for the Mexicans. With me they were always treacherous and malicious.”

            — Geronimo, My Life: The Autobiography of Geronimo, 1905.

          • Aaron Mason

            ???

          • ryan68bug

            Show us where this claim has any legal standing. It’s not enough to stand on top of the mountain and shriek it down into the valleys as fact. It’s not “Winchest ’73” we’re living, here. It’s 2014 and people are required to operate under legal standing. And his family never owned the property. Having government-issued rights to utilize the land is not the same as owning the property itself.

          • Biotech companies need more land to produce genetically modified foods… same issue in Ukraine… our government is evil…

            h t t p : / / w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = I D z b S 1 I s i f c

        • Nick

          Federal land is not for everyone’s use, it is often off limits to most of us or it’s uses are heavily restricted by the feds. An analogy to feudalism, where the king claimed ownership of land and doled out usage to those whom he deemed worthy is pretty accurate.

          • Aaron Mason

            300,000,000+ people can ruin a place pretty quickly when there aren’t restrictions. Your great grandchildren will be happy when there is still federal land for them to use.

          • William Bush

            Federal Land for them to use? Uh, we can’t use that land. It’s been restricted. Land we used to go camping in for YEARS now closed off to we the people. How’s that land for our children, let alone grandchildren to use?

          • ryan68bug

            You have your fellow 300,000,000 Americans to thank for the restrictions. Without rules and regulations, we would consume ourselves right out of existence.

          • robertbwinn

            Well, I used to work in a sawmill. The sawmill was shut down because a federal judge stopped all logging in Montana with a federal court injunction against logging. Now Montana is just waiting for a lightning strike or a careless cigarette smoker to start a fire like the ones burning in Washington this year. The difference between people in the lumber industry and ranchers like Cliven Bundy was that we did not own the trees we bought in timber sales from the Forest Service. Cliven Bundy owns his cows. So since you couldn’t talk to us, go talk to Cliven Bundy. He seems better at getting your attention than we were.

          • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

            My great grandchildren will be oppressed by a tyrannical communist government if people like you continue to ruin what my forefathers fought and died to protect.

          • adplatt126

            The Federal Government is simply leasing the land out to the highest bidder. In this case, local farmers can hardly compete with the multinational oil corporations which are exploring and fracking on this very land right now. So much for the government being stewards of the land. You think they brought helicopters and hundreds of personnel to protect a tortoise? Drinking the benign overseers, statist Kool-Aid I see. LOL.

          • The militarization of agriculture for Monsanto, Genentec, ADM, etc…

        • William Bush

          You do know that “We people” don’t have access to that land anymore don’t you? I live here. Bundy’s not without guilt, but the BLM has Massively overstepped their bounds.

          • Steven C

            William Bush. Both President Bush’s are my third cousins. Do you know if your related to them?

          • Jefry Tober

            No they have not. The American public is basically going to think why in the hell did anyone let it go from starting in 1993.

        • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

          Once again, an uneducated, I’m sure Obama supporter, being the sheep that they are. Aaron Mason, you are the disease that is killing this this once great country that so many have died for. Don’t worry, they will be coming for you’re house next, along with you’re right to post you’re completely unintelligent comments.

        • robertbwinn

          Bundy can’t pay grazing fees. The Clinton administration cancelled his grazing allotment in 1993.

      • ryan68bug

        Look into such things as the Taylor Grazing Act of 1934… laws were put into place to govern grazing. This d*ckbag was illegally grazing for 20 years because he didn’t want to play by the rules.

        • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

          His family’s cattle have been grazing there since 1887, which last time I checked was 47 years before 1934. The Taylor Grazing Act of 1934 only applies to “public land”, which Bundy’s ranch is not, according the Homestead Act of 1862, and amendments made to the Homestead Act.

          home·stead
          [ hṓm stèd ]
          house, outbuildings, and land: a house, especially a farmhouse, with its dependent buildings and land, considered as a whole
          land claimed by settler: formerly, a piece of land occupied by a settler or squatter under the terms of the U.S. Homestead Act or the Canadian Dominion Lands Act
          residence exempt from forced sale: a house, adjoining land, and buildings declared as the owner’s fixed residence and therefore exempt from seizure and forced sale for the recovery of debts

          • Justaguy

            His cattle aren’t grazing on his ranch. The whole point is they are grazing on “public land” land that the state gave up claim to in order to join the union.

          • robertbwinn

            The Constitution forbids requirements like the ones imposed on Nevada. It is unconstitutional.

    • carlhoffman

      no we are not allowed to be on it, might hurt the endanger things, that have lived there for years. In fact they are killing some of them because they cannot be allowed to die. This land was used and has been for years as stated above. Try going there and now you will be arrested.

    • Freedom

      Ssorry, Aaron, but you are wrong. Please read the letter that Bundy’s daughter, Shiree, wrote. It’s posted above but you can also google it and find it. Quite an eye-opener. This man has done nothing wrong. A lot of the media is just cherry-picking what to tell us. Remember, a lot of the media is bought and paid for by the government.

    • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

      In that case, you’re house is mine. I’ll be coming by soon to collect my things, including you’re loved ones. I might as well do a controlled burn while I’m there to restore the land to it’s natural habitat. Since it’s All of ours 🙂 Nice logic Aaron Mason.

  • d2

    Mr. Bundy’s daughter Shiree Bundy Cox in a letter explains the feud from the family’s perspective:

    “I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. 

    The rights to the land use are called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the Bureau of Land Management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve.

    Instead they began using these monies against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they’re own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penance he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM and tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. 

    In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn’t work, they used the endangered species card. You’ve already heard about the desert tortoise. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now they’re desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the Constitution of the United States of America. Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle belong to him, regardless of where they are they are my father’s property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over two borders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfield Auction and sell them. All this with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks”

    • Aaron Mason

      So you’re saying America should be given back to the Native Americans because we were here thousands of years before the Bundys? Thanks, that would be awesome!

      • Sam Shoemate

        Truly a shame that so many Americans like you have decided that it is easier, more beneficial, cooler, etc. to believe whatever the government, mainstream media, and others just like you who are too intellectually lazy to think for yourselves and so, decide to “buy in” to a “collective” mindset that political correctness and popular culture has decided to be “wisdom.” So those who share your thinking, rather than presenting any compelling evidence or intelligent, fact-based argument, seek to discredit those who believe differently by demeaning their arguments with your liberal catchphrases; calling them tin foil hat wearers, radical, racist, etc. You have no idea just how obvious you are or how idiotic you sound when you spew the product of your poor, lazy, brainwashed mind. I pity the millions in this country who, like you have given up their free will and their duty to themselves and their neighbors to think freely and critically for themselves. I pity you all but, I wish you would leave.

        • Aaron Mason

          Education. You should get some.

          • Scott Boyer

            There certainly has been no education wasted on you. How far did you go / 6th grade maybe 8th grade. Sometime, have your mom turn on a computer for you and then get on Google and check out what happened to the 56 great men who signed the Declaration of Independence and their families. Study a little history, fool.

          • ryan68bug

            I’m pretty sure those 56 men would have believed in following the law as it stands.

          • OnePissedCitizen

            Those 56 men would never have stood for most of the laws handed down over the last 100 years. We are by no means free anymore.

          • OnePissedCitizen

            And they most definitely did not just believe in blindly following “laws.” Otherwise we’d all still be part of the English colonies. Seriously read a history book fool.

          • jstein7444

            ‘We are by no means free anymore’!!!! How ridiculous….get a life…

          • judaic bolshevist mammonism (baphomet) = mahomet (muslim brotherhood)

            same devil…

          • Aaron Mason

            Yeah, you. Or religion I guess.

          • Ben Dragon Siparis duyuyorum…

          • robertbwinn

            So when do I get a trial by jury in a criminal prosecution against me? I have been denied trial by jury seven times in criminal prosecutions.

          • jstein7444

            Maybe you need to visit a country where a comment like this might land you in a prison…..ie., a rock group in Russia has spent the last two years in prison for singing a song……you know the unibomber went out into the boonies, set up a cabin and paid no taxes – did what he wanted – free from society – he didn’t like the way certain things didn’t run so he mailed bombs which killed people – he is now ‘free’ in prison…What type of freedom do you want? What are you talking about in that we ‘aren’t free’ anymore…free from what?

          • Andrew

            Wow…someone is behind on the news!!…People in America ARE being imprisoned for commenting like this….So, you think that’s gonna stop anyone who has any courage to do so?? You stand for freedom regardless of the consequences…You know, they’re not trying to disarm Americans for nothing!!

          • jstein7444

            Well, I think you are right to an extent – I think Snowden was well intentioned but he left – he should have stuck around and fought for what he believed in – in the 70’s we had Vietnam and Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers and he didn’t split – he had the guts to stick it out…..

          • Stick around in Hong Kong, be terminated with prejudice and no trace of what happened to him?

          • robertbwinn

            Snowden would have been so far into national security no one would have ever seen him again. There was no Patriot Act when Ellsberg was arrested.

          • The U.S. State Dept. has been infested with communists since WW1 and Woodrow Wilson, they tried to steal the Russian elections for their comrades in the Russian Communist Party through non-profit n.g.o.s… just like at home in America…

            But Vladimir Putin beat them… so they launched a fággot jihad against the Russian Orthodox church over the the punk rock band and the Olympics (something Romney also piled onto).

            That punk rock band didn’t go to jail for singing a song, they went to jail for criminal trespass…

          • The U.S. State Dept. has been infested with communists since WW1 and Woodrow Wilson, they tried to steal the Russian elections for their comrades in the Russian Communist Party through non-profit n.g.o.s… just like at home in America…

            But Vladimir Putin beat them… so they launched a fággot jihad against the Russian Orthodox church over the the punk rock band and the Olympics (something Romney also piled onto).

            While Leon Puñettas was so busy with gay pride celebrations at the Pentagon, three Navy Seals and a U.S. ambassador were murdered, all because everyone was being so fúcking gay…

            The Jewish globalist financiers funding Sodom Hussein Obama, the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and the Salafist terror groups opposing Assad in Syria want control just like they wanted Libyan oil for the EUSSR.

            They just tried the same thing in Ukraine and lost again…

          • robertbwinn

            I asked for trial by jury seven times and was denied.
            I am not allowed to vote in elections I pay for because I am registered independent. I am not allowed to run for public office because I am registered independent. I am not allowed to work because all useful work is being shut down. So in what way am I free?

          • Jefferson Tea Party

            Slavery was a “law”. I’m shocked to hear that you would’ve supported it.

          • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

            Then move to the socialist economic failure that is Great Brittain, for those 56 men knew when a government’s laws were going too far.

          • Britain is a Monty Python episode from hell…

          • Brian Cox

            REALLY! So I guess those 56 men where just having a brain fart when they decided to not follow the laws of England as they stood back then. Laws are not absolute. They only have power so long as the people will it or the government has the ability to kill those who refuse it. I thought we were a country of the people. Not of the government. So sad how you liberals bend over and pull your pants down so easily. But then again. Weren’t those 99% rallies violating laws as they stood. Pure liberal hypocrisy.

          • Aaron Mason

            REALLY! How about taking some of that righteousness and putting it to use fighting for individual freedoms? You know, like gay marriage, immigration reform, legalizing marijuana, true separation of church and state? No, you just choose to spout off when it aligns with your bigoted, traitorous teabilly beliefs.

          • robertbwinn

            You have some really important issues there. So isn’t it about time for some more medicinal marijuana?

          • The American Revolution was really another English civil war… The rebellion wasn’t against King George (it was a convenient excuse), it was against Parliament and taxation without Parliamentary representation.

            The War Between the States was a similar problem… If it wasn’t for white Christians with guns, both in the Colonial days (there were a lot of Hessians in early America) and in WW2, we would all be speaking German today…

            Being a 6’5,” white, blue eyed Anglo-Saxon, I would be perfectly comfortable in a greater Germanic society without Bolshevist Jewish Mammonism (big government)… Yet, the Left and the Jewish owned international media is on an anti-white, anti-Christian fággot jihad nonetheless… So, how am I obligated to defend them in a war?

          • robertbwinn

            The Constitution is the Supreme law of the land. You might want to read it some time.

          • Andrew

            He’s a poster child for Public Education!! Go Aaron!!!

          • Aaron Mason

            Beats being a poster child for no education.

          • Andrew

            Actually, no…someone free of education is a blank canvas…There’s little hope for you.

          • You need more lead in your diet…

          • Aaron Mason

            You teabillys need to quit whining like little BlTCHES.

          • Brian Cox

            While your ignorant mind hears whining. The so called whiners are preparing. Its depressing sometimes to know that as many great Americans prepare to defend and secure their rights. It also means they are defending Marxist jerks like you.

          • Aaron Mason

            Speaking as a veteran, you’re welcome for your freedoms. Prepare all you want to, you fools represent a tiny fraction of Americans. You jokers actually think a new civil war would be fun…… Why is it that the overwhelming majority of teabaggers are undereducated, racist homophobes who want a theocracy?

          • Andrew

            You’re a pathetic excuse of a veteran!! Too bad you survived

          • Aaron Mason

            And my guess is you’re no veteran at all, so again, you’re welcome for the freedoms you enjoy.

          • Andrew

            What freedoms? Oh like the ones Bundy is now enjoying?? Like the LACK of freedom for Christians to practice their faith and have an opinion without interference? Those freedoms??..yeah, great, thanks!!

          • Aaron Mason

            Nobody says christians can’t practice their faith, fool. Please give me a single example of christians not being able to practice their faith.

          • Andrew

            How bout schools and the U.S. Military, FOOL!!

          • Andrew

            So much for the Military being good for anything!!..At least to Americans…Sure, they can fight to Iraqi rights and Afghani rights, but forget about the Americans!!

          • Aaron Mason

            Ja, das ist sehr richtig! Mo Ron

          • Gehen sie saugen eine Schrotflinte…

          • Aaron Mason

            You’re allowed to play with yourself all you want in your own home, try doing it next time you’re walking down the street. Schools have nothing to do with religion. They don’t tell anyone they can’t practice their faith, faith has no place there. And if you were a veteran you’d know that your dogtags had your religious preference stamped into them. No faith allowed?

          • There is a difference between a soldier and a warrior, a difference between a general and a warlord… A general can only follow his orders, a warlord is only bound by the rules he agrees to.

            And that is the difference between us that puts you on the dishonorable side of the battlefield… You have no bushido… you are “Yellow Feathers.”

          • Aaron Mason

            You’re a joke.

          • Ich bin der Oberkommado, Drachenorden…

          • Benedict Arnold was a veteran…

            “I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting. It has been a long time since then, but still I have no love for the Mexicans. With me they were always treacherous and malicious.”

            Geronimo, My Life: The Autobiography of Geronimo, 1905.

          • Aaron Mason

            You’re “funny”. Not like “haha” funny, more like that weird, creepy Adam Lanza kind of funny. Like a “bad touch” kind of funny.

          • Ich bin der Orden des Drachen… Schwanzlutcher….

        • ryan68bug

          So, by the logic exemplified in this folk hero Bundy’s actions, no one should object to illegal immigrants that come here to make a better life for themselves, right? That’s a battle cry for the far right wing fringe, so what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, no?

          • Deneice

            Mr. Bundy, as well as the cows, have legal right to be on that land and illegal aliens do not. Before you play the “native card” the majority of illegal aliens have little to no native in them and the land was sold to us years ago, so America has preemptive rights.

          • I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting. It has been a long time since then, but still I have no love for the Mexicans. With me they were always treacherous and malicious.

            Geronimo, My Life: The Autobiography of Geronimo, 1905.

          • Aaron Mason

            ?????

          • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

            It’s a quote from a book Aaron Mason. Try opening one and getting you’re mommy to read it to you.

          • Kericoleman

            ???? That land was given up to the federal government over 100 years ago…you don’t want to abide by that law…why should the native Indians abide by the “deal” our forefathers gave them??? I think it would be great if they took action to get it back.

          • I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting. It has been a long time since then, but still I have no love for the Mexicans. With me they were always treacherous and malicious.

            Geronimo, My Life: The Autobiography of Geronimo, 1905.

          • Aaron Mason

            ?????????

          • Geronimo was the greatest American.

          • Andrew

            Explain to me why they’re wasting resources on Bundy to begin with? Seems like a non sequitur!! Does folk hero Bundy really warrant an entire ARMY to Defend those poor under protected tortoises??..Who btw the BLM are slaughtering because they’re too numerous for them to manage??

        • jstein7444

          So, you think that we ‘should’ all think like you..that your way is the only way… you know we ARE a collective society – we are the government – we have elections and elect people to represent us…….in this country we all have different opinions but funny enough, you have no room in your mind for anyone other than someone who thinks and believes like you….

        • Kericoleman

          Sam, I have followed this story since his son and the county commissioners issued a warning to the BLM in iron county, Utah. You need to get the facts. Not me.

    • jstein7444

      I think he should get a good lawyer and file a law suit – take it through the Courts – has he contacted his Senator or Representative? What did they say about his ‘preemptive rights’?

      • Kericoleman

        He has been through the courts. The last time to the Supreme Court, which ruled the BLM, had the right to remove his cattle if he did not. He was given…what 2-3 months??

        • robertbwinn

          So when is the BLM going to remove the cows?
          It is not going to happen. All we will see from here on out are some meaningless court documents.

    • Kericoleman

      Your preemptive rights were offered to you and they were SOLD for 375,000.00 your dad refused to buy them. The grazing rights were retired.

  • Zlord

    People should look at the bigger picture here…That land is basically sold already to the rich folks who have found out that this land, holds stuff that can make military grade weapons and is very rich indeed….Millionaires are already lined up to buy it just like they have been buying up land around Nevada for the same purposes, Fracking!! It’s a government land grab, plain and simple, and Harry Reid I would bet is behind it all.

    • mikewrites

      Corrupt special interests.

      • Freedom

        Wow! Until I saw this map I had no idea how much land the feds have taken away from us, especially in the western part of the country.

        • Aaron Mason

          Taken away from us? Maybe they’re protecting it from us, ever think of that?

          • OnePissedCitizen

            Man you need help, if you think this government has been out to protect anything but its own interests for the past several generations. I highly recommend you check your facts. If you know how.

          • jstein7444

            This is so ridiculous….tell this old rancher to pay for the right to graze his cows on Federal Lands….other ranchers are doing the same….gee, maybe we should allow his cows to graze on a public golfcourse because it is his right to let his cows go wherever he wants……..give me a break..I think the biggest joke is people there with their guns…where do they think they are, the wild wild west? It is a joke….some hoosier from Florida drove up there with his gun in a holster on his waist….this is some of the dumbest stuff I have ever seen by people who have bought the rhetoric that we aren’t free anymore…we want total freedom to do whatever we want….this rancher is allowed to let his cows graze on Federal Lands but there are grazing fees – tell him to ante up like the rest of the ranchers that are paying the fees. Why doesn’t the Rancher just keep his cows on his own land and call it a day … atleast his people were allowed to buy the land considering it was taken from the Indians, or I guess, that has no relevance.

          • The militarization of agriculture for Monsanto…

          • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

            It is HIS land, Not the Federal Governments! That is the issue, not the money. I see that you are easily distracted by bright colors and flashing lights, like most liberals, jstein7444. Just continue to follow the Shepard to the slaughter house like the good sheep that you are.

          • jstein7444

            It’s not HIS land – it is Federal land – owned by all of us – so, I say it is MY land and to either pay grazing fees or get off – he owns his OWN land Contractually – I would like to see someone let their cattle on his land and see how he reacts to that…he doesn’t own Federal Land but he is allowed to let his cattle graze on it for a fee – so pay the fee – I wonder if you realize that the most important thing we have in this country are property rights, to the property which you have bought contractually –

          • robertbwinn

            Bundy had a contract with the federal government. The federal government broke the contract when Clinton was President. The Clinton administration said it was shutting down all ranching in Clark County, Nevada. Bundy is the last one left.

          • jstein7444

            You know I have an open Lot that is next door to my property, owned by the City…I am told that I can use the lot for outside parties, etc., but in order to use it I have to pay for the upkeep – mow it, repair any damage, etc. Seems to me we are talking about similar circumstances….also the City has the prerogative to not allow use of the property…..

          • Kericoleman

            Oh, heck, just build a garage on it already!!! Who cares!!! Own it!!!!

          • jstein7444

            In this country we are the government in that we have elections – we elect people to represent us and to make Law, setting standards – I wonder if this rancher has contacted his representative with this problem – in this country we don’t take the Law into our own hands..we have laws and ways to deal with problems – if this Rancher really believes this is HIS land, then let him take it through the Courts! Perhaps as high as the Supreme Court –

          • Kericoleman

            IT IS NOT HIS LAND!!!

          • Kericoleman

            That’s what I was thinking…we have federal and state land here in good ol Michigan…. I think I’ll go buy me some cattle, run em on some federal and state land ….send a pittance to the state, for the federal land I’m using…and screw buying any land. You know, like the self respecting farmers around here, that either own their land or lease it from private owners. While I’m at it, I’ll just cut down the forest, cuz I’m the only one who needs firewood, then when the forest is all gone I will just walk away, so the rest of you tax payers can fix it!!!

          • robertbwinn

            Well, you can certainly participate in the government of Michigan any way you choose if you live in Michigan. Cliven Bundy lives in Nevada. What you are saying is that you have more rights in Nevada than Cliven Bundy has.

          • robertbwinn

            If you do not like the laws of Nevada, live in some other state. Nevada is open range. The BLM put 53 other ranchers in Clark County, Nevada out of business since 1993. Bundy is the last one left.

          • jstein7444

            When you talk about ‘this government’, this is the government that is created by you – we have elections – you elect people to represent you – those people make Laws – they in turn follow the Constitution – there is government all around you – the food we eat, the air we breathe, the streets and highways we drive on, the safe planes we fly in, all regulated by rules that are created by people we elect – you don’t like what is going on in your State, elect a different person…you have a grievance take it to your Representative – firstly I wonder if this Rancher contacted his Representative and what that official told him – secondly if not, then taking the Law into your own hands is pretty stupid – this is 2014, not 1776.

          • robertbwinn

            We can’t elect different people because Democrats and Republicans have destroyed free elections in the United States.

          • edzzup

            Spoken like a thoroughly indoctrinated drone.

          • robertbwinn

            Not from you. Not from other elitists.

        • jstein7444

          Really, taken away from us? Funny, I would think the American Indian might have something to say about that…………

          • Die jüdischen Bankiers sind überschwemmen Europa mit Muslimen… liegen jude…

      • William Bush

        BLM has zero constitutional authority within the states. They have authority in the territories. Once a state became a territory, all Federal land Constitutionally becomes state land.

        • OnePissedCitizen

          EXACTLY. Glad to see SOMEone has some sense.

        • Justaguy

          Not sure where you get that idea. Check out the state constitution of Nevada. When it was originally ratified it expressley gave up all rights to undistributed lands. So any land not owned by civilians at the time of statehood remained owned by the united states. You show me what article in the constitution your refering to.

          • 5th Amendment…

          • robertbwinn

            Nevada was the first state where almost all land was claimed to be federal land. That was because it was admitted during the Civil War. Union sympathizers thought it would be a good idea to do it that way to prevent Confederate sympathizers from having any influence in Nevada government. The problem with it was that it is unconstitutional. The Constitution prohibits federal ownership of land in any state to ten miles square in any district.

        • Andrew

          That doesn’t mean what once becomes Federal, can’t go back to being controlled by the state…it just takes people to stand up against them and turn it back!! Fire those holding state offices if they’re selling out!!..Hold them to account!!

      • Andrew

        “Federal” means “Corporate”..Much like the “Federal Reserve” is more a Private Corporation!!..It really means NOTHING.

    • Carole Naro

      Harry Reid is behind this because he already has prospective Chinese buyers for that land. I’m sure that “Rip-Off Harry” will make a huge profit from it.

    • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

      Exactly! Our Federal Government has always been the muscle for the organized crime of the rich and elite. The Rockefeller’s have been running this country since before the Great Depression, which was a ploy by them and other super rich, so that the country would be forced to agree to the Federal Reserve Bank. America buys each dollar that is printed at an interest rate that is impossible to pay back, which in turn, also allows the Federal Reserve to control the value of the American dollar, which controls our economy, and thus the people of the United States. I’m glad to see that someone else reads books too Zlord. P.S. The land is Bundy’s.

  • stltchr

    This is not going to end well for Bundy. see Ruby Ridge, Waco, Texas as examples of “find any eccuse to end this and somebody ends up dead and not a Fed. No one is charged with anything. See also DOJ and the administration of justice in the IRS, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Black Panther voting intimidation “investigations”….

    • Aaron Mason

      Unless some separatist traitor opens fire and starts a war, all Mr. Bundy has to do is pay his fines like everyone else and he can go on living his happy life. If he refuses, or if some crimson necked, tinfoil hat wearer decides to give the government more reasons to try and remove our 2nd amendment rights, things may very well end badly for Mr. Bundy.

      • Freedom

        You don’t get it. They don’t want his money; they want his LAND. They forced the other 52 ranchers off the land and out of business. The last 20 years of court rounds have been about getting him off of his land. They tried to buy him out with a pittance and he refused to accept it. Read the letter his daughter Shiree wrote. Google it. You’ll find it. I did. Not hard to find. It’s an eye-opener for sure.

        • ryan68bug

          They didn’t force ANYONE out. They PAID them off, and handsomely, too. Do some research before you spout off. And one family member’s letter can hardly be deemed a legally binding document. lol

      • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

        We should not fear the government, for we are the government. The tyrants in Washington D.C. have already taken you’re 2nd amendment rights Aaron Mason, because you are too much of a coward to bear arms when they are obviously treading on every American’s basic rights! Go ahead and continue to think that the 2nd Amendment was established for hunting, or target shooting. It was put there to protect every American Citizen from history repeating it’s self, as in Germany in the 1930’s and 1940’s for just one world wide example of a repeat of the British trying to confiscate all of the American Colonists’ firearms. I saw a movie once, where only the police and military had guns, It was called “Schindler’s List”.

  • Quest

    Cowboy-up for your Rights….hee-haw

  • Ricky Gildhouse

    The people can’t fight a system that it armed with words, there are no laws for government and elite. This use to be land own by the Indian, guess what happen to them? Did the government listen to their opinions, did they care about human rights? They took from other to get rich and this it still happening today.

    • Sam Shoemate

      The “ownership” of the land you are referring to is a lie. The various native American cultures NEVER claimed ownership of ANY lands. This is what made land treaties with the various native nations (tribes) so difficult. To a native American, land ownership was a completely foreign concept, something that did not exist in his culture. So, to equate what is happening today with the plight of the American Indian is a fallacy. A lot of these problems we as a nation are having today concerning the fundamental relationship between governments and the citizenry are due to people like you who have no real personal knowledge of human history and therefore, believe the lies and propaganda that are disseminated by those in power for the purpose of control. You and Aaron Mason should try educating yourselves before seeking to “educate” others.

      • Ricky Gildhouse

        Your concept of history was engineered by the global think tanks’ who use education to perpetuate the one world government agenda. You are a zombie!
        Sent from my Windows Phone

        • ryan68bug

          Lol… puff, puff, pass.

      • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

        Exactly! It’s nice to see another educated person in this country.

    • Jefry Tober

      Actually the land still is belongs to the indians. You and the US government is an occupier.

      • Ricky Gildhouse

        Ok thanks.

        Sent from my Windows Phone

      • ryan68bug

        “You and the US government ARE an occupier.” learn English, please.

        • John Natoli

          * You and the US government are OCCUPIERS.

      • Ramay

        Lame and untrue.

      • A quote from the greatest American hero…

        “I have killed many Mexicans; I do not know how many, for frequently I did not count them. Some of them were not worth counting. It has been a long time since then, but still I have no love for the Mexicans. With me they were always treacherous and malicious.”

        Geronimo, My Life: The Autobiography of Geronimo, 1905.

        • Aaron Mason

          According to a racist teabilly bigot.

  • bluetick

    We know all about that insect thing in northern CA its called the elderberry beetle and its closed land that my family has hunted and fished for generations. They said the lil bug was going extinct but in court proceedings didn’t know how many there were to begin with but as they say when facts and numbers are against them just ignore it. I thank one thing going for use is that every one has a phone capable of video and the world wide web so I don’t expect this to go as ruby ridge did. Could you imagine what would have happened if some one would have a you tube video of Mrs Weave getting her chest blown out while clutching her baby and grasping her last breath. That would be a game changer for those loved Feds that go home to there wives and complain about the none cooperating public. I don’t know the answers but I do know we are letting are freedoms go for the easy life and that is a shame.

  • Danny Robertson

    Loo the US Government is breaking the lLas of this country. So people arme your selves an get ready to take back your country. So April 16 2014 we March on Washington DC an both houses, and the Supreme Court, and the white house. All red blooded America’s an men an women of the armed forces an all Veterans. Come to Washington DC on April 16 2014. This is a peaceful movement so please remember this people. Freedom is not free people you have to earn your freedom. God bless you and your familys and God bless America. Amen

    • TRUE111

      The date is May 16, 2014 and the event which is sure to go down in history is called OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING. Come and stand with Retired Colonel Harry Riley and the pledged 1.8 million militia members from across our country.

      OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING – May 16, 2014

      Phase 1 – Field millions, as many as ten million, patriots who will
      assemble in a non-violent, physically unarmed
      (Spiritually/Constitutionally armed), display of unswerving loyalty to
      the US Constitution and against the incumbent government leadership, in
      Washington, D.C., with the mission to bring down the existing
      leadership. Go full-bore, no looking back, steadfast in the mission.

      Phase 2 – One million or more of the assembled 10 million must be
      prepared to stay in D.C. as long as it takes to see Obama, Biden, Reid,
      McConnell, Boehner, Pelosi, and Attorney General Holder removed from
      office. The senior republican in the US House of Representatives will
      become Speaker of the House and the US House of Representatives will
      elect a temporary President and Vice President of the United States. The
      U.S. Senate will take action to elect a new majority and minority
      leader.

      As required, the U.S. Congress will execute appropriate legislation to
      convene new elections or U.S. States will appoint replacements for
      positions vacated consistent with established constitutional
      requirements.

      Phase 3 – Those with the principles of a West, Cruz, Lee, DeMint,
      Paul, Gov Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, Issa, will comprise a
      tribunal and assume positions of authority to convene investigations,
      recommend appropriate charges against politicians and government
      employees to the new U.S. Attorney General appointed by the new
      President.

      *All actions in Phase 2 & 3 will be consistent with the U.S. Constitution.

      Date of Operation: OPERATION AMERICAN SPRING – Beginning Of Tyranny Housecleaning, May 16, 2014, completion to be determined

      • ryan68bug

        No, they won’t. lol

      • So is it 1.8 million traitors coming to town, or 10 million? Traffic’s bad enough with the cherry blossom crowd.

        “Those with the principles of a West, Cruz, Lee, DeMint, Paul, Gov Walker, Sessions, Gowdy, Jordan, Issa..”

        That’s when the wheels came off the wagon. Hilarious. You won’t find one callus on any one of those hands.

    • Aaron Mason

      I’m an American and a veteran, native American to boot, but you won’t find us REAL Americans showing up for a photo op for you illiterate teabillys. You terrorist talibangelical teahadist traitors can go start your own country somewhere else.

      • Charles

        Assembly Bill 413 which is now Chapter 321 Nevada Revised Statutes
        Sections 596-599 that asserted the return of 49 million acres of PUBLIC
        land BACK TO THE STATE OF NEVADA but is still administered illegally by
        the BLM. Also Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of The United States
        Constitution. Read it before spouting off. Oh and the Northwest
        Ordinance of 1787 which said upon entering the union all public land
        would become administered by THE STATE

        • ryan68bug

          Derpy derpy derpity derp.

          • Charles

            ..I.

        • It also said:

          Article III. The utmost good faith shall always be observed towards the Indians; their lands and property shall never be taken from them without their consent; and, in their property, rights, and liberty, they shall never be invaded or disturbed, unless in just and lawful wars authorized by Congress; but laws founded in justice and humanity, shall from time to time be made for preventing wrongs being done to them, and for preserving peace and friendship with them.

          How’d that go?

      • kkflash

        If it weren’t for patriotic, freedom fighting libertarians standing up to an over-taxing, tyrannical, non-representative, repressive, land-grabbing British government, there would be no USA. The British government called those brave men who dumped the tea into Boston harbor rather than pay the outlandish tax on it “traitors”, just as you have. How can you call yourself a “real” American, if you won’t stand up for the principles that created America to begin with?

        • Aaron Mason

          I believe in freedom of choice. You teabaggers represent hatred, bigotry, racism, sexism, theocracy, and a belief that education is a bad thing. There were no “principles” that created America, no god either. Evolve and adapt or get left by the wayside because the only constant in life is change. Get used to it.

          • grimace

            Yes. Well said. gr

  • You would think a history major would take a look at how Nevada became a state and the fact that it was the state that turned the land over to the feds which Bundy’s supposedly used for over 200 years.

    You would also think a history major would care to mention that it was the deal Clark County struck with the Fish and wildife service that resulted in the closure for grazing, not the BLM.

    • Gracie

      It is basic junior high school history. The land in question came under the control of the US govt. when the US won the Mexican war of 1846. It became a US territory. The Mormon’s did not arrive until 1847 and documented that they found no settlements, either white or Indian. When Nevada became a state in 1864, in return for joining the USA, they ceded any authority or control over land that was not settled. As settlers moved west, the govt. granted them homesteads to purchase for about $100 per 80 acres. Those acres not homesteaded remained under the control of the federal government.

      • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

        Exactly! His HOMESTEAD is extremely large, but still a homestead.
        home·stead
        [ hṓm stèd ]
        house, outbuildings, and land: a house, especially a farmhouse, with its dependent buildings and land, considered as a whole
        land claimed by settler: formerly, a piece of land occupied by a settler or squatter under the terms of the U.S. Homestead Act or the Canadian Dominion Lands Act
        residence exempt from forced sale: a house, adjoining land, and buildings declared as the owner’s fixed residence and therefore exempt from seizure and forced sale for the recovery of debts

        • Western Ecos

          You can’t homestead 600,000 acres. If you could, the entire west would be owned by three people.

          • kkflash

            Bundy isn’t saying he owns the land in question. He’s saying his rights to use it for his cattle don’t belong to the federal government. He’s agreed to pay land use fees to Clark County, NV. The fees the Fed says he owes were first imposed in 1993, when they decided to protect the desert tortoise at the expense of the 52 ranchers who used that area for grazing. Now Bundy is the only one left, because the high fees and low numbers of cattle permitted made it uneconomical to graze there. The Fed grabbed this public land from the use of the ranchers by regulating them off of it. 60 years ago, thousands of sheep grazed that land, and the tortoise coexisted harmoniously and was under no duress. Why does the BLM think 900 cattle are too many, when 6000 sheep weren’t doing any harm to the tortoise? The ranchers were using the land to produce our nation’s food supply. Even if they were harming the tortoise (they weren’t), isn’t our food supply more important than displacing some tortoises?

          • Kericoleman

            In 1993… ???? They started charging him??? Get your facts straight. The federal government has been charging since the early 1900’s…it was in 1993 that he quit paying his fees.

      • robertbwinn

        Nevada was the first state where all unoccupied land was claimed by the federal government. The terms under which it was admitted to the union were unconstitutional.

  • Freedom

    Bureau of Land Management: 202-208-3801
    Nev. Gov. Brian Sandoval: 775-684-5670 and 702-486-2500
    Sen. Dean Heller: 775-686-5770 and 702-388-6605 and 202-224-6244
    Sheriff Dougles Gillespie: 702-828-3111 and 702-828-3231
    Nev. Atty. Gen. Catherine Cortez Masto: 775-684-1100
    Clark County Commissioner Tom Collin: 702-455-3500

  • sunwarz

    Freedom to speak in america should be from where ever your feet are planted, not in a live stock pen! Just my oppinion!

  • Doc Grable

    You mean the desert tortoises the BLM is systematically set aside for euthanasia? What about the wild horses They’ve been rounding up for the last 20 years? Its not about the cattle, its about federal government selling off public land to big oil and fracking.

    • There is a little more to it than that as well… think GMObama…

      • Roger

        Agreed

        • The militarization of agriculture for Monsanto…

    • Not oil…water.

  • TRUE111

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    • Drew

      Get a grip.

      • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

        I think he or she has one.

    • ryan68bug

      Who did you get your weed from? It must be some hellaciously good stuff.

  • Scott Boyer

    This has nothing to do with grazing cattle where they are not allowed. This has everything to do with the “Stuff” finally hitting the fan regarding the seriously used and abused people of this land finally coming in direct contact with a tyrannical administration. Time is up people. Let the revolution begin.

    • ryan68bug

      Everyone! Don your tinfoil hats!

      • Charles

        ryan68bug-government troll.

      • Always Watching

        Mr. Bonham why are you so opposed to a man defending his rights? You
        clearly do not know the whole story but seem determined to troll all
        articles related to this subject. You don’t look that feisty in real
        life (nice pic btw).

      • kkflash

        If you’re not wary, even fearful, of the obvious escalating government overreach, then you are a fool. The Constitution created a “first amendment zone” too. It’s called the United States of America, and it isn’t restricted to an area cordoned off by armed BLM thugs. I respect this rancher for standing up to a government that has outgrown its usefulness.

  • Jokef1000

    In school I was required to memorize the poem called the “Corcord Hymn”. I wonder if the Department of Education allows it to be taught in school today?

    By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
    Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
    Here once the embattled farmers stood,
    And fired the shot heard round the world.

    The foe long since in silence slept;
    Alike the conqueror silent sleeps;
    And Time the ruined bridge has swept
    Down the dark stream which seaward creeps.

    On this green bank, by this soft stream,
    We set to-day a votive stone;
    That memory may their deed redeem,
    When, like our sires, our sons are gone.

    Spirit, that made those heroes dare,
    To die, and leave their children free,
    Bid Time and Nature gently spare
    The shaft we raise to them and thee.

    –Ralph Waldo Emerson, 1837

  • voiceofreason

    It’s almost show time…

  • Joe

    Bureau of land management???? That sounds about as constitutional as the department of education. Well, since the blm already exists, maybe they should start managing the land at our nation’s borders. Common welfare !!!

  • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

    The author of this article is a traitor to the United States of America and I hope that they kick his or her door in next.

    • StandingWithCliven

      I think this is satire, but apparently some people in this thread think it’s legit.

      • Tyrant’s Worst Nightmare

        I hope it is satire, for our country’s sake. They just kept going through the entire article though. I can’t see body language that would indicate sarcasm in a written article. Some say that 55% of communication is body language, 38% is the tone of voice, and 7% is the actual words spoken. I am 93% sure that this author is an enemy of America.

        • kkflash

          I’m 100% sure your reading comprehension is poor, if you can’t recognize the sarcasm in this article.

    • from_The_Patch

      OMG… this has got to be one of the most beautifully written pieces of sarcasm I have seen in a long time. Too bad most folks don’t recognize the wit and sarcasm in the article.

  • dixiesuzan

    Gosh, granting Americans the revocable privilege of the 1st Amendment in 1st Amendment Zones authorized by decree by low level armed BLM employees. And its inforced at gun point too !!
    How lucky we are to have flexable Constitution !

    • from_The_Patch

      Exactly correct. I have read and re-read the Constitution, the Amendments and all the articles.
      I cannot find anything that says the 1st Amendment can be parceled into zones. The BLM is in breach of the 1st Amendment among other things.

  • Fetch Velvet

    your so bias and retarded i thought this was a joke like onion at first….jeesus christ ur twisted and brainwashed

  • tiredofleeches

    Give me a break. This is someone freeloading on resouces he does own or control. Talk about being a sponge off the system! He is no better than any welfare cheat you hear about in the news. He was paying the fees until they no longer benefitted him? Are you serious? I don’t have kids in school. Why should I pay taxes to support the school system. He is a complete leech.

  • Jefferson Tea Party

    This is absolutely AWESOME. Great Job Mr Higgins!

  • Ike

    It isn’t Federal Land. Washington Post. What a bunch of douchebags.Get it right.

  • Victoria Smith

    it is understood,and “grandfathered” in, if any egress continues for time, it becomes an accepted practice. This works for private property, i.e, kids cutting ‘cross an corner etc. move the turtles yeesh. Glad to know that some people are lemmings,and some people say “Knock this heavy handed BS off!”

    • Kericoleman

      Ummmm… In order for it to work on private land it has to be continuous and uncontested use. So, not the same thing. If you are going to quote law, please understand what you are quoting. You sound like a moron when you not really know.

  • cp123

    Pure government overreach and it is happening everywhere. I want a constitution that is followed by everyone but most importantly by the current administration. I would also like the social engineering of students stopped.

    • Terry_T

      This is beyond a simple “overreach”. It is dangerous not only to the ranchers and the protesters, but to the whole nation. I believe this sort of thing has been happening for awhile now, it is just that this brave rancher has decided not to succumb making this a national story. Look up “the safe act” in New York. Warrant-less search AND seizure if a home owner is merely suspected of owning a gun. If this rancher does fall to the iron boot of government power, the federal (or more accurately the “national” government as federalism died over a century ago) will show it has unfettered power. All rights will cease.

    • Aaron Mason

      Don’t worry dear, the black man will be out of the whitehouse in a few more years and you’ll have a nice white person back in there. Hillary Clinton! 🙂

  • nyran125tk

    im guessing this whole article is a joke and its brimming with sarcasm. If you think grabbing a guys cattle (one of the LAST organic cattle farms in that entire region” Is a good thing, you are an arsehole and a complete disgusting human being :). If you are actually in favour of the BLM, you are not a liberal, a progressive or a conservative, nothing. You have a criminal mind and should go and pray to a godfather and kiss his ring. Since the government is just a giant mafia now.

    Also the BLM have snipers and armed military forces and has Murdered more turtles in that region than anyone. This has nothing to do with turtles. This is a land grab, plain and simple for some rich as energy company or oil company.

    Dont believe that nice little green forest looking emblem they carry around, they are all for stealing peoples land in the name of energy companies and oil families. But the worse part is, some rich piece of sht is obviously behind this and wants that land, probably a oil family or some sht energy company or some Agriculture caged animal farming company.

    Whoever is running the BLM i hope i see them in a court soon.

  • LONE TEXICAN

    this may well be the modern day Alamo but remember over confident dictators eventually have their San jacinto! Santa OBAMA WILL ALSO !

  • Western Ecos

    I am so confused. The same people who are saying the Constitution is in jeopardy, are also saying the Executive branch of government doesn’t exist or have any authority. This is going to be hard to figure out.

    • They are also not pointing out Bush did the same thing in Texas, down to the ‘free speech zones’, and none of these folks gave a rat’s behind then.

    • Kericoleman

      Wow. You really have it out for the “feral/wild” horses don’t you??? Something tells me you are just another welfare rancher. Go buy some land. 155 Million grazing acres, 7-8 million cattle/sheep and 35,000 horses. Doesn’t take a genius, nor a bunch of reports to figure out what animal is tearing up the public/federal lands.

  • Downriver

    So wackos think that a person who has NO legal title to taxpayer land and has NOT paid his lease is entitled? That just goes to show what idiocy looks like. . dear wackos. lease a car, don’t pay for it. so how long you get to keep it.

  • Andrew

    Wow.what BULL!! PUN INTENDED!!…First of all, cows and turtles CAN coexist. Secondly, it’s NOT 100,000 acres of habitat, it’s 600,000 acres, against Bundy’s 900 cattle??..Seriously??..Thirdly, it’s NOT Federal land, it’s PUBLIC LAND belonging to the CLARK COUNTY…Fourthly, IT’S NOT about the turtles, it’s about Bundy NOT Bowing to the BLM who tried to buy Bundy off his land back in 93, when they took the money Bundy and all the other ranchers of Clark County were paying them to PROTECT the Ranchers and manage their land, and bought them off for fear of reprisals…Bundy is the LAST MAN STANDING, and they refused to leave their Ranch, regardless of the fear tactics…The Tortoise is a TACTIC to obtain the IRE of Environmental NUTJOBS to put pressure on them to LEAVE!! Guess what NUTJOBS??..That land will end up DESTROYED by FRACKERS if Bundy gives in and LEAVES…BLM has been in the process of slaughtering thousands of DESERT TORTOISES because they can’t afford to manage them all!!…Get your bloody news right!!

    • Maybe you should read the comment below that describes how nevada became a state, and mostly public land. By yours and the other wizards’ logic, I have grazing rights covering most of Iron, Lincoln, and Washington County, probably part of Beaver too.

      Bundy isn’t a rancher. Ranchers are responsibel, pay their dues and manage their cattle. Ranchers do not leave half their cattle unbranded, graze the same land year round, and they do return any cattle belonging to neighbors. Bundy isn’t a rancher.

      • robertbwinn

        He says he is a rancher. I guess Cliven would be the best one to tell your idea to.

  • ACAMP

    Welcome to Omaba’s America, where the eco-moron liberals are thrilled to put ranchers out of business, so they can protect turtles. The same braintrusts tried to destroy Calfornia farmers to protect another important species which, like the turtles, are more important that humans.

  • dc2mb

    Curious that down votes aren’t shown.

  • Great, now how about protecting the rights of Clivens neighbors? You know, the ones who he steals cattle from and grazes on their land? How many brands did they pull out of there? 4-5 that did not belong to Cliven? He is a thief.
    You idiots want states rights? Start with NRS Chapter 568. Or do you want a lawless society as we see here? I got guns too…

  • Tim Kern

    All these proposed “Constitutional holidays” would probably work if the Secret Service were to take those same days off.

  • Sheri

    He has claimed he would be willing to pay grazing fees to the county or state. So, for 20 years, has he been putting the fees into an escrow account pending resolution of legal disputes? Bet not.

  • dove of Light

    Why haven’t those elected sheriff OFFICERS arrested the blm agents for animal cruelty and animal thief

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