Mikey Weinstein: Megyn Kelly is ‘pathetic and disgusting’, tells ‘total lies’

Megyn Kelly of Fox News and Micky Weinstein of Military religious freedom.

OCALA, Fla., May 7, 2014 — Megyn Kelly is well on her way to becoming Fox News’s most popular host.

Her weeknight current events program, unsurprisingly titled The Kelly File, beats all others aside from Bill O’Reilly’s preceding hour. Considering that O’Reilly has dwarfed his competitors on other networks for years on end, this says quite a bit.

Among the topics which Kelly tears into with her blunt, if not aggressive, presentation style is Christianity in the U.S. military. Shortly before last week’s National Day of Prayer, this attained special focus.

Blogger Priscilla of the anti-Fox website News Hounds reported that “(a)fter showing treacly video of a guy asking his god to watch over the military and school children praying that – wait for it – their school department ‘selects a curriculum that is honoring to you,’ Kelly dramatically reported that OMG the National Day of Prayer has ‘come under attack from an atheist group’ that ‘is now demanding that no uniformed military personnel be allowed to participate in this event claiming it violates Defense Department regulations.’ She introduced Dr. and Mrs. Dobson who are closely connected to the National Day of Prayer.

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“In prefacing her question to Dr. Dobson (formerly of Focus on the Family, now with a radio ministry) she cited how Fox nemesis Mikey Weinstein (Head of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, ‘challenges a lot of events.’ She summarized Weinstein’s position. Dr. Dobson, former head of Focus on the Family who now has a radio ministry, Family Talk, dismissed Weinstein as just ‘one loud voice’ and a ‘professional atheist’ who is ‘paid a very large salary.’”

Weinstein, a Ronald Reagan Administration appointee and former Air Force Judge Advocate General, was not pleased. He had his lawyer send a legal notice to both Kelly and Dr. Dobson, claiming that they were saying legally actionable falsehoods about him.

“I think that Megyn Kelly is to professional journalism and professional journalism ethics what Clive Bundy and Donald Sterling are to race relations in this country,” Weinstein tells CDN. “I have no problem, you know, you probably saw the letter that our lawyers sent to her and to Fox, copying to Dobson. I have no problem with a knock-down, drag-out debate about these issues, but when you lie and you tell people over and over again that I’m an atheist or in the case of Dobson, calling me a ‘professional atheist’, and that we’re an atheistic organization, that does two things that are particularly damaging.

“Number one, it tends to incite even more threats against me, my family, and our foundation. We do represent over 37,000 active duty members of the U.S. military, 96 percent of whom are not atheists; they’re Christians, they’re Protestants or Roman Catholics. We do have just under 800 atheists, agnostics, humanists, secularists, et cetera, but that tends to already further incite already unstable people. It’s an out-and-out lie. Now, I know I’m a public figure, which means I have to show reckless disregard for the truth, and that absolutely is reckless disregard, so that’s why this shot across the bow from our lawyers, which is ‘Don’t be doing that again — ever again’.

“Secondly, if you go on military installations around the world, and we have about a thousand of them in 150 different countries….not to mention ships at sea and airplanes….the one network news show that you’ll see on in common areas or even with commanders….the commissary, the barbershop, wherever you go, is Fox News. Given the fact that most of our clients happen to be Christians and they keep hearing Fox News with this unlawful lie machine, this echo chamber of ‘Mikey is an atheist’….and our organization is ‘atheistic’….Not that I have anything against atheists at all.

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“I have atheists in my family. I keep trying to become an atheist, but I’m someone who still prays….three times a day in Hebrew. I’m a Jewish agnostic or a Jewish secularist or whatever. I am not an atheist. I keep trying to get there but I’m not there yet, but if you’re on a military installation, where 80, 90 percent of the time when you look at a TV it’s Fox News, and you’re a typical potential client of ours — a Protestant or Roman Catholic — why, that’s an obstacle to want to contact me or our foundation, if you’re thinking that I’m an atheist or our foundation is only for atheists. So, Megyn Kelly is a liaress; she is a liar — female version, ‘liaress’.

“The Dobsons are fundamentalist Christian supremacists and they want to exclusively push their version of Christianity, which we view as being the Christian version of the Taliban. They are not people of the cloth that care about other people; they are fundamentalist Christian bullies and Megyn Kelly and some of the folks at her pathetic network — at Fox — are providing a platform for these fundamentalist Christian bullies to terrorize and oppress so many others that are….young men and women who are putting their lives on the line to protect our country and our country’s social contract….the U.S. Constitution, which includes a bright line separation between church and state….and also includes Clause 3, Article 6….no religious tests in this country.

“So, that’s what I think. I think that Megyn Kelly is a pathetic and disgusting entity that continues to spew absolute and total lies. The Dobsons are no better. They’re disgraceful and wretched and hideous in what they do, and we’re not going to put up with that anymore.”

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  • DublinIreland

    I would start the discussion but astoundingly, I don’t know what to say! Sometimes you just can’t get your mind to focus after reading something like the above.

  • Mark Shells

    the guy repeats that he is trying to become an atheist, but claims also that his organization is not an atheist one? I need some clarification here.kind of like AA, but instead of being sober he wants to get God out of his life. Go for it, i don’t care, but leave others alone unless you want it visited back on you, I don’t always agree with Kelly but this time she makes a point, if you WANT to be an athiest, you are one.

    • godlessveteran

      “Instead of being sober, he wants to get the booze out of his life.” Makes just as much sense that way. Getting rid of religion is getting clean.

    • mjhoop

      His writing is a bit too sophisticated for you to follow his meaning. But what else is new?

    • Jack

      He wants god out of government. Not god out of everyone’s lives. Keep the government out of church and church out of government (the way our founding fathers intended).

  • ALG

    A horse by any other name is still an Agnostic and a Jew. An agnowtic does nor know if htere is a god. An atheist does not believe in God.

    A Jew is either: One born to a Jewish mother, or one who converted to Judaism in accordance with Torah law.

    An Agnostic is: Someone who is undecided on the issue of God’s
    existence, who believes that God’s existence can neither be conclusively
    proven or dis-proven.

    So a Jewish Agnostic is those two things put together. Since Agnosticism is not a form of Judaism, odds are she’s Jewish by birth.

    This for this discussion Atheist and Agnostics are one in the same.

  • joel

    I”m an Atheist and I have no problem with people exercising their Constitutional rights. Aren’t you generalizing? I also resent people that attack Atheists because they don’t believe in God. Do you have a problem with that? Im a conservative, I only rely on Fox for my news. I support Megyn Kelly. I put 2 kids through college without a penny assistance from the government.

    • specialkkc

      Hi Joel- what I hate about atheists isn’t that they don’t believe in God; it’s that they simply cannot describe their beliefs without tearing down someone else’s in the process.

      • joel

        Why do you judge everyone the same. What’s to describe. I believe in the scientific explanation for life and existence. I have no reason to tear anyone down. My family, friends or anyone in general. I can say the same thing about most religions. I know its been said before but more people have died in the name of religion than anything. I think tolerance is the word.

        • Fumetti666

          One thing about atheists…they seem so bitter…Bill Maher and George Carlin and the Young Turks are all angry atheists…notice all of them are mad, and their “humor” is based on anger?

          • Marge Lippincott

            George carlin is dead

          • stuckindamiddle

            So is Bella Lagosi

          • Thom

            Coming from someone with the number of the beast in his name.

            I’ll say a prayer for you.

          • godlessveteran

            Maybe because they’re always being attacked by religious a-h0les?

          • Fumetti666

            I was an atheist at one time, and I have to say, more atheists are assholes than religious people. Religious people can be hypocrites, but atheists live and breathe by discontent and anger….grow up.

          • Silvanuess

            Attacked ?? Richard Dawkins has said that Athiests are winning the war against religion……..wishful thinking in the extreme.

          • Jack

            Uh… Hate to break the news to you, but christianity peaked in the 1950’s and has been on the decline since then. Atheism/Humanism/Agnostism is are on the rise and as science continues to advance so will Atheism/Humanism/Agnotism.

          • Silvanues

            I agree,bitter unhappy and so sad about life..and the future..Christopher Hitchins, and Richard Dawkins Etc are prime examples,very intelligent men but who would want to be as miserable as they seem to be.

        • akela

          the problem lays with the scientific explanation is that it has NEVER been proven either, it’s a theory.. period.. so you made a choice to believe in a theory.. Those who believe in God choose to have faith, as they have seen the miracles, Happenings of healing with NO explanation.. for one thing, thats why Christianity is called a FAITH. I would rather believe there is a God and then to believe there isn’t ,then to die and find out there is . If not oh well.. won’t matter will it?? but yes a lot of atheist do live good lives and by the rules of Man, most of which are taken from the 10 commandments btw..

        • Poor_Richard

          And intolerance in the actions of atheists is the point of it all now, isn’t it?

        • Silvanues

          The statement “More people have died in the name of religion” is often said but is quite untrue,more people by far have died at the hands of Athiest regimes than all who have died because of religion,look up the statistics…easy enough to find out.

          • Jack

            You should check out the prison rates. Only a fraction of 0.02% of prisoners are atheists/humanists/agnostics/anti-theists, yet they account for more than 13% of the general population. Christians are 82% of the prison population, yet their percentage of the general population is lower than that. Why is it so disproportionate? Atheists also are statistically less likely to get a divorce. And these Atheist regimes weren’t typically killing people for religious purposes. You can say Hitler was, but Hitler is not a confirmed atheist and the Nazis generally were christians (and they didn’t have separation of church and state).

      • mjhoop

        And you and the people here are not tearing down Mr. Weinstein? What I hate about some who claim the cloak of Christianity is how hateful they are. Jesus would be proud of all of you, wouldn’t he?

        • specialkkc

          And WHERE do you see, in my post, me tearing anyone down? Touchy, touchy. Get a life. Or at least learn to read.

          • Thom

            “Get a life.” “Learn to read.” These are examples you have provided of un-Christian language that tears people down. I pray that the anger in you will be cleansed by the Holy Spirit.

        • Poor_Richard

          Mr. Weinstein threw the first stone I believe. Turning the other cheek is only appropriate if you are dealing with an intelligent humane being. Mr. Weinstein would appear not to fall into that category.

      • Jack

        Christians are required by their book to try and force non-believers to believe. Well, when we tear down your beliefs, we’re just doing the same thing you’re all doing. We’re trying to spread the good word of Atheism and trying to free people from religious bondage, to free them from the myths and superstitions they were forced to believe as young and impressionable children. It’s because we love you and all of humanity. We want to save you. 😀

        • elizabeth cohen

          There is NO PLACE in the BOOK that says we need to force any non-believer to believe. I think you have Christians confused with Muslims. If someone asks me about my faith I share it; if they want to know more I share it; I HAVE NEVER FORCED MY BELIEFS DOWN ANYONE’S THROAT. Your soul is your responsibility not mine. You and you alone have to answer to God, I can not stand in for you, however Jesus did. If God wanted us all to believe in Him by force He would not need mere man to do it, He would do it Himself. He doesn’t because He wants us to come to Him on our own. He will not force it and he does not ask me or anyone else to force you.

          In closing all I can say is; it is sad when folks just spout and spurt out information that they can not back up. You need to meet people like me who say that it is your responsibility to choose God or not. Perhaps if you did your own study you would see that God is a good God and wishes for you to come to Him willingly and not by force.

          • Jack

            This comes from other believers…. Read posts and articles from other christians about their complaints that service members aren’t allowed to proselytize. They always say “I’m required by the bible and my faith to spread the word of the gospel.” So this isn’t me spouting off, this is me repeating what other christians say and do. Doesn’t the bible say that all non-believers should be put to death?

          • elizabeth cohen

            Not any I know Jack. You must be thinking of Jehovah Witnesses. The people I know live our lives normally like you or any one else. If someone came to and asked me “Elizabeth, why are you always so happy and you are disabled, shouldn’t you be angry at G-d” Why should I be, it was an incompetent doctor that put me in this wheel chair not G-d.

            There are ways to talk about our Savior with shoving Him down a throat that does not want him. Oh, and by the way Satan loves those kinds of people.. Have a Blessed week.

          • Jack

            That’s you, and I love your attitude… Unfortunately It’s not shared by all Christians… Just look at the comments in this thread and you’ll see plenty of people that claim their required to attempt to convert people. Depends on the denomination I guess…. Episcopalian, Presbyterians, and the other more liberal denominations are great and I love ’em to pieces. Some of the others, not so much. I have a general rule of thumb, if a denomination ordains women then they’re probably not a threat or an annoyance to anyone and probably open arms to everyone. If they don’t ordain women, there’s a good chance they’re oppressive, judgmental, meddle in politics, and try and force their beliefs on everyone. It’s just a general rule of thumb, something based on my own observations…. It’s just based on my own personal observations, I didn’t do a study on it.

            I realize that the vast majority of Christians are loving people and there’s a small minority of them that aren’t. Unfortunately that small minority is the loudest and they unfairly make all Christians look bad. It takes a conscious effort on my part to realize that those few don’t represent all Christians. Either way, if someone treats me with love and respect I’ll return in kind regardless of their personal beliefs.

      • ss

        I believe in tolerance for ALL beliefs (Atheism Is a belief, many,including some leading Athiests consider it a religion) The Athiests I have had contact with (including a brother) seem to me to be as bigoted and more intolerant than religion I know.

    • Fumetti666

      How can you be sure there is no God?

      • joel

        How can you be sure there is? Show me proof and I’ll believe. But you can’t. I live my life with some simple rules. Treat everyone with respect no matter what there beliefs. Be a good honest, hard working person and love my family.

        • Fumetti666

          Do you think the perfect placement of the sun, the way we have the perfect amount of oxygen and hydrogen, fertile soil that allows for plant life, all “chance”? Do you know if the orbit of the earth was just a tiny bit off, we would not be here? I would rather be agnostic.

          • godlessveteran

            Chance. Exactly. No celestial genocidal bogeymen.

          • Fumetti666

            You sound like an intellectual giant…not

          • Jack

            Further down someone was complaining about atheists tearing down other peoples’ beliefs. Aren’t you pretty much doing the same thing? Why can’t christians understand that some people don’t believe what they believe? Why is this such a hard concept to grasp? There wouldn’t be any tearing down of anyone’s beliefs if some people didn’t use those beliefs as a sword, a way to judge others, didn’t base laws on their religious beliefs, keep forcing it into the government and schools, look down upon others that believe differently, hate & discriminate based because of their beliefs, etc.

            Another thing that gets irritating is the extreme arrogance of some christians. The “This is a christian nation, we abide by god’s law” It’s not, we are not a theocracy and we have no state religion, or “Marriage, it’s ours and you can’t have it”. It’s not, marriage predates christianity by thousands of years. “Christmas is ours and you must say ‘Merry Christmas’ or I’ll throw a hissy fit”. It’s not, Christmas was a Pagan holiday hijacked by christians. Jesus wasn’t born in december.

            Now, notice I say “some”. Not all christians are like that. Maybe not even the majority of them. But the one’s that are like that are the loudest, get the most attention, and are what gives christians a bad name. I have to make a conscience effort to not base my opinion of an entire religion based upon the actions of some people. Likewise, you shouldn’t judge atheists based upon the actions of some. Some are militant, and the reasoning is they see religion as extremely harmful to mankind & society (and they have a lot of evidence to support that). I try not to be militant. But if I’m attacked, I might fire back. Funny thing is, some people have the gal to criticize my beliefs (or lack thereof) or use their religion as a means to criticize me but if I criticize their beliefs, they get their panties in a bunch. Well, it goes both ways. And if they’re confident in their faith then mine or anyone else’s comments or opinions about their faith wouldn’t affect them.

          • Poor_Richard

            Why is it that atheists have to demand all references to the belief in God be erased from public view? Are they that super sensitive to the sight of a cross? Are they so insecure I their belief that they can’t stand anything that might shake their beliefs? We are confident in our belief and celebrate with others that believe. It seems to irritate non-believers however. They are like rabid skunks at any display of Christianity, gnashing their teeth and biting at any thing nearby.

          • Jack

            Because we want the establishment clause adhered to in order to maintain separation of church and state. We can careless if it’s displayed on personal property. Also, christians refuse to allow minority religions the same rights. If you’re going to allow one religion to do it, then you have to let them all do it (even the religions that are highly disliked). It also presents the false image and creates confusion that leads many to believe we are a christian nation. We are not a theocracy and we have no state religion. The government is not constitutionally allowed to show preference to one religion over another.

          • Poor_Richard

            Come now, when you have 4.8% of the population trying to dictate how a country that was based on the Juden-Christian ethic limit the display of one of the major religions of the world let alone this country, we have a problem with that. If you do not believe that is your choice, but to try to change the religious rights for the majority of the citizens is not what the framers of this government instilled in all the documentation. We are guaranteed the freedom of religion, not from religion as most atheists would try to espouse. If does say the the government shall not institute a religion and that it shall be separate. Atheists are not mentioned as they were an even lesser minority. To have the proposed statue of satan next to a Christian monument not only is offensive it kind of acknowledges Christian beliefs in a backhand way.
            It would appear some just want their 15 minutes of fame and to get at least a minuscule feeling of righteousness of thief dis-belief.

          • Jack

            Atheists/agnostic/humanists account for more than 10% of the population. It’s not just atheists pushing for separation of church and state; it’s them plus all minority religions and actually a lot of christians. Wise christians know that mixing state and religion is bad for everyone including them. Besides that, we’re a republic, not a democracy. In a republic they majority doesn’t rule over the minority.

            And why is it so important to see your faith all over government property? Having it there isn’t going to make your god love our country anymore than anyone else’s, nor is having it there going to be more real. If the Satan statue offends you, then oh well. Now you see how many view your faith decorations. More people have been killed in the name if the christian god then in the name of satan. All or none.

            On top of that, the government endorsing a particular religion is not only illegal, but it sends a message to young impressionable children that’s what they’re supposed to believe. A lot of parents of various faiths (or no faith at all) don’t want people stealing the right from their children to freely decide their religious beliefs. For the most part children will grow up believing what religion they’re taught to belief which is wrong to them and humanity as a whole. I would want my kids to grow up and decide what makes sense to them and believe what they want to believe without influence from the government or anyone else. If they chose christianity on their own, then cool. If the choose agnotism, judaism, hindu, muslim, etc… That’s fine by me, but I want it to be their choice and not something that was forced on them.

          • Poor_Richard

            I have no problem with separation between church and state however attacks on religion and churches, all churches is something I am very much against. There is a concerted effort to harass those of religious faith and it is done, it seems with much glee. The case in point is the collection of money to erect a statue of satan to be placed next to a Christian cross at a court building. The funny thing is by erecting such statue it seems to give credence to what atheists say they do not believe. Everyone needs their 15 minutes, I guess. Sad.

          • Jack

            The only attacks on churches are brought on by themselves. Have you noticed that non-theist don’t typically ridicule Jewish people? That’s because Jewish people don’t try and remove science from public schools and attempt to teach creationism. They don’t try to manipulate the laws of our country to match their beliefs. They don’t demand that they get to put their religious stuff all over government property. They don’t normally attack other people of other faiths and they don’t try to push their religion on everyone using government force. They do their thing, don’t meddle in other peoples’ affairs, and they mind their own business. When christians start doing that, then they’ll stop getting attacked. you can be a good christian and not be a jerk about (and many are good christians and aren’t jerks about it).

            And atheists are not satanists. Satanists are a completely different group of people and their not what you think. Maybe you all should quit being so bigoted towards them and get to know some of them and find out who they are and why they do what they do. You’ll find out that their not that Satanists that worship the christian version of the devil. They don’t sacrifice people, and they too have rules against murdering people and causing harm to fellow man. If the statue bothers you then maybe you should start demanding that government remain separate from religion and not show preference towards any one religion over another. I can’t see how you all can demand that your stuff remain there and not allow anyone else’s. That’s hypocritical. It’s unconstitutional. I thought conservative’s supported the constitution? Oh yeah, right… Only when it suits them.

          • Jack

            Then take down the cross and stop persecuting atheists. Atheist receive far more discrimination and criticism than christians do. Actually, christian’s complaints are nothing more than than them crying that they’re not always getting the “privilege” they’re accustomed to. And I respect your right to believe what you want, but no, I will not respect your silly and harmful beliefs. If your faith was strong, others criticizing it wouldn’t bother you. Once you ban or restrict the criticism of beliefs, ideas, and opinions, you’ve eliminated the freedom of free thought.

            Satanists have just as much right to install their religious symbols as christians do. When you allow one religion, you have to allow them all. Stop demanding special treatment for your religion and people will probably stop attacking it.

          • Guest

            If you can have your statue, they can have theirs…. You’re not being persecuted when others are afforded the same rights as you. It’s government property, the ten commandments have no business being there, but if they’re going to be there then every other religion (whether you like that religion or not) is entitled to do the same.

          • Bradley Updyke

            Ok when people came to this country it was to be free from a “State / Government” Church ala the Church of England and the freedom to worship their own way was one of the major if not the major reason for forming this country so how your getting separation of Church and State in this I have no clue… As Christians we are bound by the bible to tell of the teachings of our God to non-believers meaning those who do not accept Jesus Christ same as the Hari Khrishna and other religions. I do not get into name calling and I appreciate the fact that people have differing beliefs and opinions and feelings and I can respect that… and we were formed as a Christian nation and you are correct we have no state or government forced religion but to ban people from praying before meetings or clubs or what not is a clear violation of 1st amendment rights now I would even agree with silent prayer then those who didn’t wish to pray didn’t have to and the government is not choosing one religion over another by allowing prayer as Atheism is not a religion it is a belief of a non belief in a supreme diety (sp) how many years did the 10 commandments stand in our courthouses… why because the initial laws were formed from them…. but now we have to remove them from all buildings so now who is the persecuted one… I served 23 years in the military and I understand there are hundreds of religions and including WICCAN and Satanism and I respected everyones rights to believe what they will or those who believe in the big bang THEORY so can’t we all get along… and the name calling isn’t called for on either side… but CNN and the other news stations/moguls do the same thing so don’t just take pot shots at FOX news because that reveals stuff bout yourself as well….

          • Jack

            You just proved my point on why church and state need to stay separate. They have you and many others convinced we’re a christian nation. Again, we are not. Documents from our founding fathers are very clear on this. In 1776, christian population was 17%. That grew and hit it’s peak in the 1950’s at over 90%. It’s been declining since and we’re between 65-70% now (not that it matters, this is a republic, not a democracy. We don’t have mob rule here, or aren’t supposed to). Federal government and religion did pretty good at staying separate until 1952. Eisenhower ruined it and added “One nation under god” to the pledge, “In god we trust” on our currency, and all the other god stuff throughout the government (as our founding fathers rolled in their graves). And now, you all think it was always like that and we’re a christian theocracy. I don’t care what you believe or how horrible I think your religion is (even satanists, muslims, those westboro fellas). I will fight to the death defending your right to have it. But simultaneously, I will continue to push for separation of church and state. That is the only possible way to truly have religious freedom for all. Just because you claim that atheism is a lack of belief, doesn’t make it any more acceptable to criticize them then it is for them to criticize you. If you chose to criticize mine or anyone else’s beliefs (or lack thereof), or if you use your religion as a sword, don’t be surprised or get upset when your beliefs get attacked. It’s a two way street.

            And I’m well aware that Christianity requires spreading the faith to non-believers (pssst… Here’s a little secret, I was raised Christian. I was serious about it until I grew up; but even then, I was serious about separation of church/state. It’s up to me to live by my faith, not the government’s responsibility to force me to live by my faith). Almost every religion has that belief, but just because that’s what you’re religion tells you to do, that doesn’t make it any more acceptable when you do it. Now me personally, I won’t get upset. I’ll simply respond with “I’m not interested”, and if you don’t leave after that, then we’ll have issues. Now if you speak to my children about your religion without my consent (which I will not grant), then we’re going to have serious issues. I’m quite sure you don’t much appreciate other faiths trying to push their religion on you or your family and I’m sure that because their religious book tells them to do it doesn’t make it any more acceptable to you when they do it.

            “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],-and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.” Treaty of Tripoli – John Adams 1797

            “There remains [in some parts of the country] a strong bias towards the old error, that without some sort of alliance or coalition between government. & religion neither can be duly supported. Such indeed is the tendency to such a coalition, and such its corrupting influence on both parties, that the danger cannot be too carefully guarded agst.” ― James Madison

            “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.” James Madison 1803

            “Besides the danger of a direct mixture of religion and civil government, there is an evil which ought to be guarded against in the indefinite accumulation of property from the capacity of holding it in perpetuity by ecclesiastical corporations. The establishment of the chaplainship in Congress is a palpable violation of equal rights as well as of Constitutional principles. The danger of silent accumulations and encroachments by ecclesiastical bodies has not sufficiently engaged attention in the U.S.” ― James Madison

            “Religious institutions that use government power in support of themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths, or of no faith, undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of an established religion tends to make the clergy unresponsive to their own people, and leads to corruption within religion itself. Erecting the ‘wall of separation between church and state,’ therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society.” – Thomas Jefferson

            “They knew that to put God in the constitution was to put man out. They knew that the recognition of a Deity would be seized upon by fanatics and zealots as a pretext for destroying the liberty of thought. They knew the terrible history of the church too well to place in her keeping or in the keeping of her God the sacred rights of man. They intended that all should have the right to worship or not to worship that our laws should make no distinction on account of creed. They intended to found and frame a government for man and for man alone. They wished to preserve the individuality of all to prevent the few from governing the many and the many from persecuting and destroying the few.” ― Robert G. Ingersoll

            “I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute – where no Catholic prelate would tell the President (should he be Catholic) how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote – where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference – and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the President who might appoint him or the people who might elect him.

            I believe in an America that is officially neither Catholic, Protestant nor Jewish – where no public official either requests or accepts instructions on public policy from the Pope, the National Council of Churches or any other ecclesiastical source – where no religious body seeks to impose its will directly or indirectly upon the general populace or the public acts of its officials – and where religious liberty is so indivisible that an act against one church is treated as an act against all.” – John F. Kennedy

            “For while this year it may be a Catholic against whom the finger of suspicion is pointed, in other years it has been, and may someday be again, a Jew–or a Quaker–or a Unitarian–or a Baptist. It was Virginia’s harassment of Baptist preachers, for example, that helped lead to Jefferson’s statute of religious freedom. Today I may be the victim- -but tomorrow it may be you–until the whole fabric of our harmonious society is ripped at a time of great national peril.

            Finally, I believe in an America where religious intolerance will someday end–where all men and all churches are treated as equal–where every man has the same right to attend or not attend the church of his choice–where there is no Catholic vote, no anti-Catholic vote, no bloc voting of any kind–and where Catholics, Protestants and Jews, at both the lay and pastoral level, will refrain from those attitudes of disdain and division which have so often marred their works in the past, and promote instead the American ideal of brotherhood.

            That is the kind of America in which I believe. And it represents the kind of Presidency in which I believe–a great office that must neither be humbled by making it the instrument of any one religious group nor tarnished by arbitrarily withholding its occupancy from the members of any one religious group. I believe in a President whose religious views are his own private affair, neither imposed by him upon the nation or imposed by the nation upon him as a condition to holding that office.

            This is the kind of America I believe in–and this is the kind I fought for in the South Pacific, and the kind my brother died for in Europe. No one suggested then that we may have a “divided loyalty,” that we did “not believe in liberty,” or that we belonged to a disloyal group that threatened the “freedoms for which our forefathers died.” ― John F. Kennedy

            “We in the United States, above all, must remember that lesson, for we were founded as a nation of openness to people of all beliefs. And so we must remain. Our very unity has been strengthened by our pluralism. We establish no religion in this country, we command no worship, we mandate no belief, nor will we ever. Church and state are, and must remain, separate. All are free to believe or not believe, all are free to practice a faith or not, and those who believe are free, and should be free, to speak of and act on their belief.

            At the same time that our Constitution prohibits state establishment of religion, it protects the free exercise of all religions. And walking this fine line requires government to be strictly neutral. And government should not make it more difficult for Christians, Jews, Muslims, or other believing people to practice their faith.” – Ronald Reagan 1984 – Amazing, he really did say this. Weird.

          • Jack

            Oh, and if you think I’m anti-religion, you are wrong. I said in my first post that it’s a small part of the Christianity that irritates me. The arrogant ones that demand everyone lives by their beliefs, looks down upon others for believing differently, insists that everything is theirs and wants to implement biblical law. I live in the Mormon capital of the world. I have missionaries come to my door on a regular basis. I’m nice to them, I feed them, offer them something to drink, and a lot of times I listen to what they have to say (but I usually tell them beforehand I’m not converting). Most of my friends are Mormon. My previous housemate is Catholic. He married a 7th Day Adventist. Now a co-worker friend of his is my new housemate and he’s a Mormon. The 4 of us are the best of friends and between us we have an atheist, catholic, 7th day Adventist, and a Mormon (4 people that shouldn’t get along). We can respectfully talk about our beliefs to one another and none of us are offended that the others don’t believe the same. Also, none of us feel the need to have our religion intertwined with government nor do we expect anyone to do a prayer based on our faith the event can start. Again, I live in the Mormon capital of the world. I do not believe as Mormons do, but I love the people. I cannot think of a time that any of them have ever been disrespectful towards me or my beliefs. That being said, I am offended for them for how some other Christians treat them. Just like I’m offended for how most other minority religions are treated. I will respect anyone who gives respect.

          • Jack

            Again, not a christian nation. Study history. James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and many others wrote extensively on it This is also another big reason why christianity gets attacked so much. You’re all so possessive and demand that everything is yours… This isn’t YOUR country; this is OUR country. We’re a melting pot. If you don’t give respect, you won’t get respect. See my post directly below.

          • della

            well said!

        • specialkkc

          Show me proof there is no God. I’d rather believe and be wrong than not believe and be wrong. Now THAT would be an ‘oh sh7t’ moment, wouldn’t it?

          • acrannymint

            show me proof Vahalla, Nirvana, Cthulu and Unicorns don’t exist.

        • Poor_Richard

          That is why they call it faith. All you have to do is look at the pictures taken by Hubble to see the wonders of the universe and the Big Bang creation.

        • Victoria Dreksler

          Jesus said, “Blessed are those who believe and don’t see.”

        • elizabeth cohen

          For those who believe in God no explanation is necessary for those that do not no explanation is possible. I do not need physical proof that God exists. I KNOW He is there. That my friend is what faith is all about.

        • Mark Shells

          I know God, he wakes me every morning to a wonderful wife, a good life and the beauty of sunsets, do YOU claim to do these things? Only God can make a beautiful tree sir. whether you think so makes no difference to me, or him for that matter..

      • gatorman60

        How can you be sure there is?

  • mariesnylife

    public figure or want-a-be, you described yourself while insulting Ms. Kelly! You come across as having some serious mental issues. Ms. Kelly, I have found to always be very honest and allows the guest to make their point. You sound a bit misogynistic.

  • bweez b-wildered b-wise

    Oh my! Weinstein’s Fist of Defiance is telling! How sad that this man is defying the True and Living God, the Creator of heaven and earth!. I’m just curious… to whom or what is he praying? I’m praying for his soul… which is eternal and will know eventually, beyond doubt, who IS God!

    • Pie Thon

      Mikey Weinstein is a spawn of Satan.

    • Thom

      Ugh. He’s Jewish. Not atheist. Jewish. Jews pray. Atheists don’t. At least try to understand what you read.

  • Pie Thon

    Precisely. The visceral hatred espoused for Christians and Christianity is actually very common with Bolshevik ideologues like Mikey Weinstein, Arie Perlinger, and Mark Potok.

  • Chris Braden

    Until you stop identifying yourself as ‘Mikey’ you have zero credibility.

    Keep on fighting the good fight and losing those court cases “Mikey.” lol. Good day.

  • specialkkc

    Poor little Mikey. What a pathetic & hateful whiner. And wrong about..oh, everything.

  • specialkkc

    BTW I LOVE Megyn Kelly. Her show is the best on FOX.

  • Thomas A. Lloyd

    Mikey, stop being such a cry-baby

  • Marge Lippincott

    everyone is entitled to their beliefs im a catholic and no one will stop me from doing what have the right to do with god s I will continue to believe I hope others feel the same

  • Thom

    Luckily for everyone, America doesn’t have a “Christian military.” It’s comprised of people of all religious and cultural backgrounds. Most of his clients – like he mentions time and time again – are Christians.

  • Thom

    He mostly defends Christians. Try to comprehend what you read.

  • elizabeth cohen

    No sir, you are a dirty Jew. I am a Jew and I call it as I see it.

    • Thom

      “And you shall know them by their love.”

      • elizabeth cohen

        You have a comment to make, make it. I will stand by my comment. He is one of those Jews that helped gas and burn 6 million Jews.

        • Thom

          Such love.

          Jesus will forgive you for your hate, but first you must accept him into your heart willingly.

          • elizabeth cohen

            I do believe in Jesus Thom and I have accepted Him in my heart. Now I will remind you of an incident in the New testament where Jesus goes up to the money changers in the Court of the Gentiles on the Temple mount and yells at them then proceeded to knock all their money down. If Jesus is the Son of God, which He is, do you suppose He would tolerate those very same Jews who are so ugly in their hearts and souls? Do you suppose He would tolerate those very same Jews who helped gas millions of their fellow Jews to save their sorry lives? Jesus did not shy away from anger, nor did He shy away from telling it like it is. He also did not shy away from the cross. So, before you take the splinter out of my eye, take the beam out of your own….. Have a blessed day

  • stewbee

    this guy’s the scum of the earth

  • Dermot Meuchner

    Dennis, you’re a fool.

  • Dermot Meuchner

    Dennis, seem familiar?

  • Dermot Meuchner

    America land of the flat earth morons.

  • bamared2222

    Incredible how Weinstein, after accusing Kelly and Dobson of lies, then speaks of them in a despicable manner. The Dobsons are the finest people; they arent bullies. They have done more good for others than he could ever dream of doing. He is the bully when he tries to deny military folks their religious rights and intimidates chaplains from speaking freely and exercising their duties. The man is the real liar because he is a typical Marxist who only likes his opinions and beliefs, and is totally intolerant of others.

  • Victoria Dreksler

    Christians believe in a good and Holy God and they themselves try to be good honest people. Why do athiest try to destroy everything good a Christian stands for?. .

  • Jon Weiss

    As a veteran who, other than voting, abstained from politics during my career, I will say that Mr. Weinstein has no leg to stand on in the discussion of religion and the U.S. Military.

    Soldiers are indeed restrained by regulation from being involved in religion or politics if their involvement gives the appearance of the religion or political agenda being supported by the DOD, it does not however in any way restrain the individual soldier from taking part on their own account.

    Traditionally, this has meant that if a soldier wants to pray to their God, they can, if they want to attend the church of their choice, they can, they can take part in any Church activities they desire and can back any political party or politician they wish, as long as they don’t make any statements indicating that they are acting as a representatives of the U.S. Government when they do so.

    So, as a soldier…If I say I want to back candidate X over candidate Y, I can do so as long as I don’t go to a political rally in uniform. I can state that I support them and that I am a soldier, I simply cannot state that the Army or my unit supports the candidate. The same basic line also apply to religion, I can go to my Church and praise my God, and say that I am soldier while doing so, I can likewise praise my God while on duty, as long as I do not demand others follow in that practice.

    Mr. Weinstein has made statements indicating his belief that there must be a wall between me and my God and me and my government, but until Mr. Weinstein picks up a weapon and dons a uniform and joins in the the battlefield, in defense of the nation, I will keep my own counsel on what I can or cannot do. Mr. Weinstein has not earned the right to join in the discussion.

  • 7bill_lee7

    Weinstein has a deep spirit of offense. Hyper patriotism, just to get the military to listen to him and then castigate others who take exception to his vitriol. Not sure why people listen to him. It’s a cult following.

  • Poor_Richard

    Mr. Weinstein is all about the profit motive and little else of relevance.

  • Dave Sharp

    Ahh, so the sides are drawn and quartered and this writers stamps his feet about his particular bias while missing the bigger point. Not surprising, journalists for years have been missing the big point altogether while ignoring the bigger questions that need to be asked. This is getting stale and quite frankly, predictable. Take on the meat heads in office not their mouth pieces.

    Where has, or when has, Weinstein ever came out over lighting the Christmas menorah at the Whitehouse? Hmmm, he seems rather f!n selective in his complaints and quite frankly lacks both credibility and evidence while lying himself. In short another whining atheist who can’t back up his administrative actions or bias without resorting once again to name calling and whining. Mikey, doesn’t like it does he, Life is disappointed but not surprised.

  • Sandra Leigh Olson Rogers

    The oft-repeated cry of atheism & other belief systems is “separation of church & state”. The First Amendment to the Constitution reads as follows, & I quote, ver batim, in its entirety.

    “Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or PROHIBITING the free excercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” The capitalization of the word “prohibit” is my emphasis. What this first part of the First Amendment means is that the Government cannot establish a religion that everyone in the country must adhere to or face punishment. It also means the Government cannot stop you from worshipping as you see fit, regardless of who or what you choose to worship. If you want to wordhip a two-headed hydra, you are free to do so, and no one can stop you. I support & respect your right to believe or not, as you should support & respect my right to my belief system. One should not cancel out the other.

  • acmaurer

    Mikey Weinstein is pathetic and disgusting.

    And you might want to check your facts about him a little more closely: Weinstein was never “Air Force Judge Advocate General,” which is a general officer position, but rather just another JAG lawyer. Nor was he “a Ronald Reagan Administration appointee;” just an Air Force lawyer assigned to the White House.

    You may be forgiven if you got that bio info from Weinstein’s bio, which dishonestly conflates his ordinary Air Force assignments into something much grander than they actually were. But then, see my opening sentence.

  • Poor_Richard

    I’d agree with you but then we’d both be wrong.