David Horowitz at UCSD: Islam’s problem with Israel

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SAN DIEGO, September 20, 2014 — A visit to the University of California, San Diego, by outspoken conservative author David Horowitz a few years ago is getting renewed attention, and rightly so. The story is as relevant as ever. It was designed to be a cordial and informative open forum at the University of California, San Diego. Instead, some shocking comments were made about Jews from a Muslim student during an exchange with Horowitz

Horowitz was invited to the campus as a guest speaker by the student club, “Young Americans for Freedom.”

During an open exchange, Horowitz asked a member of the Muslim Student Association (MSA) if she supports groups such as  Hamas and similar terrorist organizations.

At first she replied with a question, “Are you asking me to put myself on a cross?”


Then she continued. “If I say something I’m sure I will be arrested. For reasons of Homeland Security.”

So far, the audience was only witnessing a warm up. The real fireworks were ignited when Horowitz offered the most pointed question of all.

“I’m a Jew…The head of Hezbollah has said that he hopes we will all gather in Israel so that he doesn’t have to hunt us down globally. For it or against it?”

After a moment of silence the student said, “For it.”

UCSD Rabbi Yehuda Hadjad said her comments made many Jewish students feel uneasy. Evidently the rabbi has a gift for Grand Canyon sized understatement.

“It was very painful for us to hear that,” Hadjad said. “We have someone telling us that they will be hunting us down wherever we are and if we would all be in Israel it would be easier for them. It brings a very uncomfortable situation and atmosphere on campus.”

Horowitz himself gets accused of extreme views. He has referred to this event entitled “Justice in Palestine Week” as a cause linked to terrorist groups. Some say they even caught him calling the group “Hitler Youth Week.” If true, that would certainly be an extreme statement. But given the Muslim woman’s answer to his question and the fact that several terrorist groups are connected to the Palestinian cause, it may be time to remind ourselves than an extreme view might also be the truth, an outrageous truth perhaps, but truth nevertheless.

The Muslim student has since walked her comment back. She apologized, claiming she didn’t accurately hear the question.

“Had I understood the nature of the question,” she put in writing, “I would never have responded the way that I did- by providing an answer that misrepresented my beliefs.”

Perhaps she thought Horowitz was asking if she loved Jews and wanted to join hands with them around a campfire and guitar to sing about world peace.

Or, inasmuch as she had already put it on record that she does not renounce Hamas, an organization which calls for the death of Jews, maybe she did hear the question and in a quick unguarded moment revealed her heart. Maybe she regrets the comment only because of the bad publicity.

A UCSD spokesperson also wrote a statement: “At UCSD we strongly condemn any suggestion that violence, especially genocidal violence, is a legitimate political tool. We firmly believe that this one student’s opinion is not representative of the opinions of the majority of our student body.”

Great sounding words. Let’s hope they are followed up by action. Anti-Semitism is on the rise today on college campuses all over the country.

In April of this year, Anti-Israel student activists at the University of Michigan shouted death threats at Jewish student council members, using words such as“dirty Jew” and “kike.”

At University of California, Berkeley, a Jewish girl holding an “Israel Wants Peace” sign was deliberately hit with a shopping cart pushed her direction by the head of “Students for Justice in Palestine.”

At Harvard University, the “Palestine Security Committee” decided to have fun with Jewish students by placing fake eviction notices on their dorm room doors.

At Northeastern University in Boston, “Students for Justice in Palestine” desecrated a menorah and disrupted several Jewish events.

In the fall of 2013, San Francisco State University witnessed an all day event sponsored by the “General Union of Palestine Students.” This one was especially creative. Participants were invited to make posters and t-shirts saying, “My Heroes Have Always Killed Colonizers.”  The colonizers, of course, were Jews. Somehow, the fact that Jews have been living in the Holy Land since ancient times was conspicuously ignored.

The immediate aftermath of these events was not followed up with any official response on the part of the universities.

Although most professors would not endorse such vandalism, and would deny being anti-Semites, many of their teachings fuel the fire for Jew hatred by relaying historical revision about Israel.

UCSD Communications professor Gary Fields has written a book entitled Dispossession which takes on the Palestinian cause and accuses Israel of occupying land it should not have. He also said in an article for the San Diego Union Tribune that Israel has a “time honored strategy of disinformation.”

David Klein, a California State University, Northridge, math professor put up Web pages on the university’s server calling for a boycott of Israel. What that has to do with teaching math is anybody’s guess.

David Lloyd, professor of English at University of California, Riverside has put together a campus event featuring  Omar Barghouti who has accused Israeli soldiers of “hunting children,” and accused American Jews and other Israeli sympathizers of both controlling the media and  “buying and paying for the allegiance of Congress.”  Lloyd offered course credit to any of his students who attended Barghouti’s speech.

At NYU, Prof. Lisa Duggan organized a conference that provided a platform for 21 anti-Israel activists to call for Israel’s elimination.

In general today, many professors talk as if Israel exists illegally even though her statehood was legally voted upon by the United Nations. They talk as if Palestinians are merely after their own state when in fact they turned down a state of their own in 1947 after the same United Nations voted to partition land between Jews and Arabs. They talk as if Israel has “occupied” Palestine when in fact the “occupied territory” was expansion taken from countries who had openly sworn to annihilate Israel and instead were stopped with a preemptive attack during the 6 day war of 1967. Finally, they talk as if today’s acts of  terrorism in the name of Islam are due to both Israeli and American policy when in fact the Koran commands such Jihad in places such as Surah 9:

“Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them.  Hell shall be their home an evil fate. They swear by God that they said nothing yet they uttered the word of unbelief and renounced Islam after embracing it.”

It’s high time for some moral clarity: The problem Middle East Muslim countries have with Israel is that Israel is not a Muslim country. That statement is extreme. That statement is also true.

This is Bob Siegel, making the obvious, obvious.

 

Bob Siegel is a weekend radio talk show host on KCBQ and columnist. Details of his show can be found at www.bobsiegel.net.

NBC San Diego, the Independent Sentinel, and Times of Israel  contributed to the hard news portions of this article.

 

-For more detail on the history of Israel and the Palestinians see Bob’s article for CDN The Historical truths behind the Israel – Palestine conflict

 

-For more detail on the religion of Islam where Bob acknowledges peaceful Muslims who veer away from or reinterpret the clear Jihad commands of the Koran see Bob’s article for CDN Obama on ISIS: Is the Islamic State really unrelated to Islam?

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Bob Siegel
A graduate of Denver Seminary and San Jose State University, Bob Siegel is a radio talk show host and popular guest speaker at churches and college campuses across the country, using a variety of media including, seminars, formal debates, outdoor open forums, and one man drama presentations. In addition to his own weekly radio show (KCBQ 1170, San Diego) Bob has been a guest on many other programs, including The 700 Club, Washington Times Radio's Inside the Story, The Rick Amato Show, KUSI Television's Good Morning San Diego, and the world popular Jonathan Parkradio drama series, for which Bob guest starred in two episodes and wrote one episode, The Clue From Ninevah. In addition to CDN, Bob is a regular contributor for San Diego Rostra. Bob does a good deal of playwriting as well (14 plays & 5 collaborations), including the award winning, Eternal Reach. Bob has also published books of both fiction and non-fiction including; I'd Like to Believe In Jesus, But...and a fantasy novel, The Dangerous Christmas Ornament.
  • Marcus77

    between February and December, 1948, the Israeli nationals carried out 32 documented massacres in Palestinian villages.

    Of these, the most well-known is that of Deir Yassin where on April 9, 1948, 254 men, woman and children, including 145 women, thirty five of whom were pregnant, were slaughtered. This before any Arab armies had been arrayed against Israel.

    • Martin Luffa

      That’s interesting
      How many non-muslims of all kinds have muslims murdered since leaving Arabia in 632?

      • DocReality

        So that justifies a Muslim student making a vile statement in the manner she did? She meant EXACTLY what she said and she said it right the FIRST TIME. She’s not fooling anyone

      • David Sterkenburg

        How is that relevant here? Palestinians aren’t responsible for ‘Arabs’ any more then the Norwegians are responsible for all whites.

        • Martin Luffa

          Fakestinians are Arab muslims

    • DocReality

      Arabs are so talented when it comes to historical revisionism.

  • Claudius Templesmith

    I’m not sure than anyone can objectively claim that the likes of Lois Lerner, Gyorgy Schwartz, Saul Alinsky, Karl Marx, and Bernadine Dohrn are somehow good people.

    Marxism, in particular, is a Jewish ideology that was responsible for the murders of some 120 million souls during the 20th century.

    • A Mohamud

      First of all, settling dispute with wars is evil. It should be done with discussion and reason. 2nd, when excessive force is applied by one party on another, one group is annihilated and that is a fact. 3rd, I am a Moslem woman and I hate to see any killing of innocent people and civilians (children, women, non combatant men and boys and people enjoying life in their homelands with no ill intentions towards others–no-one has the right to take their lives for whatever reason) for any reason whether for religious, ethnic or other extremist reasons. The World should Unite, therefore, against any groups employing in discriminant killing of innocent people including those in Palestine whose homes are bull dozed while they are inside (I have one vivid image when a grandmother was being dug out of her demolished home under rubble or babies are being dug out from under rubble), who are bombed and with no where to hide including even in UN schools. We must differentiate between policies of extremist Jewish government led by Netanyahu and his killing machine and Jewish people in general who (except the extremists) are those who fight for human rights everywhere so what happened during the Holocaust is never repeated! Lumping those two together is lumping ISIS and all Moslem who abhor what they are doing! Israel looses legitimacy in the eyes of all reasonable and peace loving people because of the way they treat the Palestinians! You cannot sugar coat, camouflage, hide these simple truths by shouting that people hate Jews! What is hated is the actions of those in power who are doing things similar to what ISIS is doing in Iraq and Syria and will do elsewhere if given the opportunity–both are sick men, hungry for power and domination! The world should unite against them. Peace in Palestine is moral imperative among all peace loving people–who must unite against all extremists wherever they are hiding! Extremism must also be rooted out from Moslem communities, Christians who incite hate and Jews who do the same wherever they are! Today, many of these groups are creating and fomenting mass paranoia and hysteria which is detrimental to world peace and stability. Moslem leaders must speak out about extremist ideology and paranoia that is being propagated to Moslem young people–this hysteria is killing more Moslems than anything else. May peace prevail in the world!

      • Black__Mamba

        “May peace prevail in the world!” whines the anti-Semite who compares Israel to ISIS and the filthy murderers of Hamas to the victims of the Holocaust.

        You guys want peace? Stop starting wars.

    • Bob Siegel

      I’m Jewish and I have nothing to do with that ideology. Neither does that ideology have anything to do with Israel and the Palestinians. What an ignorant statement!

  • Mike

    It is not an objective article at all… Most of the people in the world don’t like Israel at all… Just think about it… What Israel have made to think people in that way ? You can’t blame all these highly intellectual American profs. without asking why they do it ! Everybody knows that Israel kill all the innocent children and women with their highly developed guns. That should not happen !!!

    • Black__Mamba

      I like Israel. And if you’re “Mike” then I’m Mohammed.

      It’s Hamas that uses children as shields.

      • Mike

        I respect your idea. I said ‘most of the people’… Nice to meet you Mohammed.

        • DocReality

          When you say “most of the people,” are you also including yourself?

      • David Sterkenburg

        There has been 0 evidence for the use of human shields. It’s another of those claims that the Israeli propaganda machine blurts out and gets repeated ad nauseam without ever being substantiated. They fire rockets from populated areas, sure. Not a big surprise as there are no unpopulated areas in Gaza. But that’s not the same as using human shields. It’s an excuse used by Israel to justify the huge amount of collateral damage caused by their indiscriminate shelling. If you fire howitzers at an urban area you cant blame the other side for casualties resulting from that.

        • Bob Siegel

          The shields have been one hundred percent authenticated.

          • Terry Ponick

            Don’t waste your time with the likes of “Sterkenburg,” Bob. Just another email alias for a lefty troll programmed to mass distribute anti-Semitic spam, repeating lies and information he’s learned in a seminar and puking it out as received truth. No point in arguing with them. They’re already a permanent part of the lefty Borg. They have been assimilated.

          • Bob Siegel

            Well said, Terry. Unfortunately others read their comments. I do not engage them for very long unless they are willing to debate me on the radio. That is my standard. Thanks for your comment.

    • JWPicht

      A lot of “highly intellectual American profs.” are intellectual frauds, but that’s neither here nor there. To trot them out as thoughtful, unbiased observers of the Middle East is an appeal to authority, and if they’re authorities, it’s mostly at playing the gender/race oppression game.

      As for the innocent children being killed, the only reason that more of them aren’t Jewish is that the Palestinians and their Arab allies are relatively inept. To treat Palestinians as the victims in this because their weapons aren’t as good and they aren’t as able or willing to keep their kids out of harm’s way is like treating the Axis powers as victims because not enough American kids died in WWII.

      I’m very sorry for the deaths of innocent Palestinians, but if the Palestinians would put down there weapons, there would be peace; if Israel put down its weapons, there would be a bloodbath and the destruction of Israel.

      • David Sterkenburg

        Oh please, that’s a ridiculous argument. If you’ve got the capabilities, you’re responsible for their use. Blaming the victims as usual. After decades of inhuman treatment of the Palestinians, you shouldn’t be surprised that the rhetoric becomes a bit heated. Look at what some Israeli politicians have been calling for: mass-rape of Palestinian women, genocide, ethnic cleansing, etc. And Israel is not under any existential threat like the Palestinians are. If they were, I’m sure the rehtorics would be a lot more extreme than even Hamas’.

        • Bob Siegel

          Israeli politicians calling for the pass rape of Palestinian women and genocide? What a thoughtless irresponsible comment! Check your facts. You have no idea what you are talking about. You’re popping off at the mouth and you haven’t a clue what you are talking about.

    • Bob Siegel

      So the majority is automatically right? Throughout history the majority has often been wrong. The majority believed in slavery at one time too. I have challenged the conventional wisdom of Israel with facts. Not by taking a vote.

      • Mike

        The key point is what made people think in that way ? Actually, you didn’t answer my comment which was ‘ You can’t blame all these highly intellectual American profs. without asking why they do it ! ‘

        • Bob Siegel

          I addressed the inaccuracy of the proffs and pointed out where they were inaccurate. I also shared a link to another more detailed article on the subject.

        • Black__Mamba

          Professors tend to be leftists and leftists increasingly tend to be anti-Semites.

          Hitler had a lot of support in German universities even before coming to power.

      • David Sterkenburg

        No, but the majority in this case is right. The difference is that most people in the world aren’t exposed to the US’s propaganda. That’s why opinions of Israel are so much worse in Europe than they are in the US; we don’t buy into their fairy tales but report the actual stuff going on there.

        • Bob Siegel

          You have been brainwashed. You are showing your ignorance of the facts. I invite you to read my documented 12 part article on my Website entitled The Truth About Israel and Palestine.

  • JASON

    THIS EXCHANGE TOOK PLACE IN 2010. NO MENTION OF THAT. NO REASON TO BELIEVE ANYTHING IN THIS PIECE.

    • Bob Siegel

      The story has been getting renewed interest as the video of the exchange is being shown on blogsties. And the larger point with many examples of anti-Jewish hate on campuses is extremely contemporary.

  • Water Dude

    When it comes to Middle East issues, the US has very little credibility left.

  • David Sterkenburg

    Why do you Israeli propagandists always claim that Palestinians don’t want a state. The turning down of the 1947 offer was completely logical. It asked of a large majority to concede over 55% of their land to a small minority. Nobody would’ve excepted that. In hindsight, following decades of Israeli warcrimes, it turns out that this was the best offer they would ever get. But at the time it wasn’t a logical decision to make.

    • Amadaun

      Warning to readers: Left-wing seminar troll alert regarding the above sock puppet. Name-calling, no debate, no facts, only reading off a seminar sheet. Purpose is to distract from the conversation. Left-wing trolls are generally misinformed or mal-informed sociopaths who love to bully and upset people they have been programmed to hate. Best not to engage with them. They always get the last word in, even though it’s invariably wrong. They live to do the bidding of their masters like Media Matters, Daily Kos, and the George Soros puppeteers.